Hey guys, I'm interested to know if any of you use one of these mini miners. Does it mine as part of a pool? Is it fun or educational and does it actually get any sats!? πŸ˜„ Thanks. πŸ™
I have one but I only had it running briefly. I can't find a good spot for it. I know it's small, but my wife is sensitive about weird electronic devices around the house.
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Please suggest a good device. So I can earn good sats if possible.
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I'm the wrong guy to ask. I know nothing about mining. If you use SN search I'm sure you will find stackers who can provide great information.
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Oh my bad! I should have known about it.
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No big deal. I think you probably need a Bitmain s19 for like $700-800, but that depends on electric costs where you live.
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Thanks you so much. For your valuable response
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Any miner in theory can mine solo or in a pool.
It's a relatively small ASIC, kinda like those USB miners.
The cost of it is probably more than what you can ever mine with it though, but it's cheap if you just want to learn about mining.
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ok thanks that sounds ok actually. I'm interested mainly to learn about mining and contribute something to the network.
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Some other small/cheap/silent miners you might be interested in:
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I don’t think I’d call Apollo II cheap πŸ˜…
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Nano 3 for me has the best price/performance relation.
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The main problem with that one is that it is closed sourced (like the Apollo II), and it is locked to one pool only
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Indeed, if I have to buy one, I will go with bitaxe for sure. It's a way to send signals that align with me, even in a capital expensive area like mining.
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Yea I really wish the Apollo software was open source. Alas
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Great I’ll check them out thanks.
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BitAxe is great! It's fully open source hardware and software. Two guys from my local BitDevs meetup made it happen. Skot9000 started the project and designed the hardware. Johnny9 backwards engineered the firmware.
It's super easy to set up. You plug it in and connect to the wifi network displayed on the screen. Configure it with your wifi credentials and reboot the bitaxe. Open a browser on your local network and browse to the IP displayed on the screen. Configure your mining pool credentials, save. You might need to reboot it again. Congrats! You are hashing.
The thing that sets this project apart from similar efforts is the hash efficiency. A nerdminer does CPU mining on an ESP32. BitAxe uses an individual ASIC chip from an S19, I think. So you are getting industrial strength hash efficiency in an adorable desk toy format. It's like a cool knick knack that puts out 500 GH/s. I put mine on a shelf with a bunch of bitcoin books and a laptop full node. When it is quiet I can hear it 'breathe' as the fan alternates speeds to maintain target temp on the chip.
In general, mining profitability will almost always be lower than just buying BTC on the spot market. This starts to change if you operate at a very large scale or have access to free or subsidized hardware or electricity. BitAxe is at the extreme end of unprofitability. Due to the high relative cost of the hardware you might have to mine continuously for a century to break even.
Skot is working on a hex board that will fit 6 ASIC chips. It will definitely help with cost efficiency. If you are interested in this stuff definitely check out the Open Source Miners United initiative.
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Thanks so much for the info. πŸ™
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NP! I hope you get a bitaxe and it turns into a fulfilling hobby...or maybe more than a hobby. ;-)
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I like the open source ethos and it looks cool too so I’m definitely tempted!
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Cons: -not economical
Pros: -open source hardware/firmware movement -takes up minimal space -quieter than big asics
They're mainly an educational tool but there's a bigger movement going on.
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It's for education and a little of fun mostly.
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Thanks.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @mf 11 May
Aside from participatting in the lottery, by contributting hash power to the network you are literally increasing the bitcoin network security and the valur of btc by consequence. It's always a net positive.
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It only earn like 32sats per day, so the ROI is non existent. Solo mining is the way to go, but then the chances to win a block is astrologically low.
Personally I started off solomining but changed to pool mining later on. Helps me to zap some SATs without needing to move SATs around from onchain
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That's really helpful info. Thanks.
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This is really low. And you can withdraw from pool at any time with lightning? I started the other way around. But stopped solomining some time ago. If your hashrate is constant you can sell it to plebs on a daily basis. They probably pay you more. Or you can make some special deals like 1-10% of blockreward go to you if a block has been found. What if your Bitaxe really finds a block while mining for a pool that pays you 32sat a day and even keeps 2% of it? It is not impossible.
Price wise Avalon Nano 3 seems better option. https://mineshop.eu/avalon-nano-3/
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Pros: cheap, you can mine 3.25 Bitcoin, small Cons: expensive in terms of Bitcoin, most likely you won't mine 3.25 Bitcoin, unavailable in my country
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I have one mining in a pool. It contributes around 400 GH/s on average. So it doesn’t earn many says, but it does also use very small amounts of power compared to other miners.
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That's similar to what you can get with an USB miner, like the Compac F.
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Oh really? Good to know!
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ge 11 May
Been wanting to get one to have I think it looks dope and your contributing even if it's small it's something been really thinking of getting one just to have thanks for this post
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Good question. I will also learn from comments. This post will help me to know some good stuff.
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If you want it for learning purpose, yes you can. But if you think you can ean from it, it's a no.
That's what my friend said to me while I was discussing with him about miners.
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Once all the public miners go bust or become cucked it will be the bitaxes that will save the day
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makes for a fun toy
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I think it's way too expensive. The BM1366 chip costs like $15, so I don't understand why a whole unit costs like 10x that.
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There are a lot of other components, plus making the whole thing, plus shipping, etc.
It's the same with any other electronic device. Maybe you are comparing this to PC parts, but that's different as they are all standard and you can just swap components. Here, and with other electronics in general, you have to design the whole board.
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Actually, I input the BOM file from their GitHub to DigiKey and it adds up to $42 for all components without the ASIC. PCBs are cheap and machines solder for you. Even if you splurge on a Noctua fan, the BOM will come out to maybe $70. You don't have to design anything because all the manufacturing files are open source.
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As a point of reference, for one of the companies I consult for, they do their own custom hardware for industrial automation.
The BOM of that board is about $70. The landed price in the US (after PCB manufacture, Assembly, Shipping, and Import Fees) is $130. These are done in quantities of 100-200 per run....if they do a "prototyping run" of 10 boards, the cost comes in at about $240 per board.
I'd be willing to bet its very difficult to do a single board for less than say $250 once every thing is added up.
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Usually the original designer makes them and sells them to resellers. Who knows for how much. That's a hidden cost.
But, as it is open hardware, you can of course just build it yourself for cheaper.
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