Brother, I am grateful for the advice and suggestions you always have to help me. It is a real shame to live here in this place where everything is a complication. But well, I did tests with the Green and even in one aspect it seemed more interesting to me than Phoenix, it is that when opening the channel with direct deposit through the Lightning Network, the cost is fixed at 2500 SAT, in Phoenix the cost is 1% of the deposit + mining fee. When I opened the channel in my Phoenix I took advantage of a quiet moment with a fee of 2 SAT/vB and it was not so expensive, but in these times of so much movement I have seen openings of more than 3000 SAT. Right now to open in Phoenix with 100,000 SAT, to compare, it would charge me 3284 SAT, in Green 2500, but if I open in Phoenix with 250,000 it would be 4784 SAT in Green it is still 2500 SAT, that is great. In my tests, I'm using Green with a simple VPN, low mobile data usage, and it opens quickly. So it's not that bad. Thanks again, buddy.

Friend @DarthCoin, I live in a cursed country. Remember that I recently told you that GreenWallet opened without a VPN, something strange for me, because it is common that we have access to fewer and fewer services, so it should not happen that someone who regulated us, like Blockstream, deregulated us. Well, I have to use a VPN, and the rest is very similar to Phoenix. So I will continue with the good old Phoenix, until ACINQ allows it.

The thing is that there will always be those who are really smart and want the good of others and that means their well-being in return, that is very good. But there are the bandits who for their own benefit do not care about harming others.

Today I have to share in the educational project of CubaBitcoin, the Lightning Network and the use of Bitcoin in daily life. Some of the students are nocoiners and others shitcoiners. So to level things up, in a very basic course the proposal is:

Understand why we need Lightning Network, they already saw Bitcoin Onchain last week,

Airport Analogy (does it sound familiar to you?) and finally try with Wallet of Satoshi the speed of LIGHTNING. I only have 1 hour to do everything. During the week we continue to go deeper online with them.

But if we want people to learn and adopt Bitcoin as what it is, MONEY. For me Lightning and the main chain are all they need. I always question the rest.

Even one of the instructors at CubaBitcoin asked me:

How could you explain to the guys that Lightning is Bitcoin and Liquid is not? So I had to mine for knowledge. But now I see it clearer and I can try to make it clearer for others.

Once again, thanks bro.

Friend @DarthCoin, I thought that with age I was becoming stupid, because I did not understand how such complex and tangled mechanisms were needed to explain something so simple. But it seems that I was not so bad or lacking in understanding. Just as you say, Bitcoin and Lightning solve everything. Thanks once again.

En realidad si no preguntas no podrás aprender. Primero entrar en modo invitado o con un correo no hace la diferencia para este asunto.

Debes ver a la billetera que tienes offline como una Billetera Fría, solo la vas a utilizar para firmar.

La billetera creada en el dispositivo que va a transmitir es la que actualiza el saldo, crea la transacción y la transmites.

Recuerda que los BTC estan en la cadena, no en la billetera. En la billetera lo que tienes son las llaves privadas para firmar.

Cuando quieres recibir es simple, en la billetera que está online pones recibir y la dirección que sale para recibir la usas y listo. Cuando se envía a esa dirección, se actualiza el saldo de BTC que controla esa llave. Para enviar creas la transacción en la billetera que va a estar online, porque es la que tiene el saldo actualizado, si lo intentas con la offline te dirá saldo insuficiente. Una vez creada exportas la transacción, ya sea mediante un archivo PSBT o un QR, en el disponible offline tienes que importar la transacción para formarla, luego exportas la transacción al dispositivo online, igual mediante archivos PSBT o QR y la transmites.

Puedes poner la billetera offline en online, pero ya entonces no tiene la seguridad de que tus llaves privadas no toquen Internet.

Unfortunately, I don't know what's going on now, I can't send pictures on SN. I currently live in one of the poorest countries in the world, I opened a channel in Phoenix with about 10 dollars, today it would be 15 dollars. Of course, you always have to take into account the mining fees.

Back then I used WoS to accumulate and then I made the transaction to Phoenix via Lightning Network. Problem solved in that case.

But oh well. We always want people to learn and adopt.

Well, I've been reading this post and there are things I don't quite understand. Does the person you want to educate and adopt want to have seed phrases or does he want them?

If he doesn't want them, then a custodial wallet. If he wants them but doesn't have technical knowledge, then Phoenix or Greenwallet. At least in Phoenix, with the $20 he can open a channel directly with a deposit in the Lightning Network. Greenwallet too, but I don't know how much the minimum deposit is in the Lightning Network for this wallet.

So I don't understand why you're looking for two scalability solutions, Liquid and Lightning, for the same result. It seems more complicated to swap, to change from one wallet to another. That's my humble opinion.

He intentado mandar fotos de las direcciones pero no puedo, no sé que pasa. Son las mismas para la original y la billetera OnlyWatch.

Como tienes la billetera de Solo Mirar, es simplemente usar una de las direcciones que está en esa billetera. Al final esas direcciones pertenecen a la billetera original

ESPAÑOL POR DIOS

SURPRISE!!!!

I opened Greenwellet without VPN!!!!

Now yes. Because I could see in the guide that it uses a system similar to Phoenix with the ACINQ node. Blockstream allows opening the channel with direct deposit in the Lightning Network.

So we have another option. Thanks friend for the guide.

I'll check it out soon. Here with such slow internet, Phoenix works like a charm for us as self-custody. Now I'm going to explore Phoenixd on the laptop. Greenwallet only works with VPN.

That's why P2P Lightning Network. Here anyway, since you have to use VPN to use the Green wallet, you can't buy through that route, and we don't have a Visa card. lol

Thank you for your comment. I am very glad that it is useful to you. We will continue walking and we will continue to see each other in the council burrow. Successes

Thank you, my friend. Thank you for your comment, simple but important to me. Thank you for your support to the community. Thank you for your inspiration.

Lo esperaré con ansias. Gracias Darth

Thank you so much for your help. I am currently in the middle of an educational program about Bitcoin and being able to properly understand and learn these concepts helps me a lot in teaching. Also being able to use the full potential of NUNCHUK and teach that potential is a blessing for us here, because as I have already mentioned this application is the Swiss Army Knife of Mobile Wallets.

Thank you again.

Sorry. It seems I didn't explain myself well. I do understand that process. What I can't figure out is WHAT SHOULD I WRITE IN THE BOX?

Hi @hugomofn. I've been testing NUNCHUK, I love it. But I'm stuck on importing a key using XPRV. Could you send me some information related to that topic? Thanks in advance.

I was very pleased to know that my post about the use of NUNCHUK and SPARROW in teaching Bitcoin was selected as one of the featured posts. Thanks to SN. This is also the result of your work as a community and the help I have always received from @Cuba_BTC. Thanks to all of you.