thanks for posting this, I'm so bad at socials. I'm quite surprised there's not more things on this topic, seems like a logical step for social app protocol + payments. Hopefully we get to spark peoples imagination.

Super bullish on PLEBHY!

When it breaks out of social media then we'll start seeing things get next level. For a while though builders and designers needed a place and tools to be creative.

That audience was the biggest drivers to twitters development in the early days as with the internet. Hashtags was first used/invented by a designer and user of twitter I remember correctly. The community formed so much of the interactions we use in social, and on that site today... that is until Justin Berber came around in 2010. He was first person will 1million followers.

The feeling that you can be part of the creation process is what's working for Nostr the most imo. So when we get ideas from all over that we can't imagine now that's when we go next level with adoption/usecases.

CuriousDK who we streamed with refers to it as the "rewilding of the web" which is a fantastic term imo. It was normal for an internet user to know some basic html and css cause they wanted to style their myspace pages.

Not everyone can be a protocol dev, but the application layer - especially the web, so many can feel a part of that.

Check out the stream with those two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agn_qOW3mN8&t

Yup! We're gonna be presenting some tournament details and then hopping over to Twitter or Jitsi so everyone can hang out 🤙

I think Bumi is trying to explain some of the difficulties in building non-custodial web applications that use Lightning. I've never heard Bumi utter the words "That app sucks because it's not on the web." We all specialise in different areas, and we welcome this diversity it to our judging panel. There are many other judges that have the same weight as he does and I would think they will ALL evaluate your project on what you build.

You pointed out a shortcoming of our own platform, totally get it. Very valid concern and something we'll take onboard. Thanks for your opinion 👍

We're just trying to have fun with lightning and see what's possible. Of course we're going to make mistakes, and we appreciate you helping give feedback, but pointing fingers for the sake of it is a waste of everyone's time. As Bumi said, please propose a constructive solution rather than just drumming up some negativity for the sake of it.

Want to open an issue? Go right ahead: https://github.com/peakshift/makers.bolt.fun

And yes, Stacker News is great - hence why we're here. We love these guys, but it's a custodial solution that they've implemented, and that's something we chose not to implement on our platform. So does that mean SN has an agenda against non-custodial solutions? Of course not, they've just built their product with how they see fit and also what's available to them at the time... and that's what we're doing too. It's not that complicated. I get your frustration, but talk of agendas is just total trolling at this point...

With regards to hacking at the tournament, you don't need to worry. Yes our first events were geared towards WebLN but that's because we needed to focus our events as we're a small team. The #LegendsOfLightning tournament isn't biased towards web applications, you can build on lightning, on-chain, even hardware or come up with a concept for educating people through a children's book... the possibilities are pretty endless. The only barriers that are up are bitcoin only, that's the only real rule...

Hope to see you there and please don't be discouraged by our previous web focus. We're all here to learn and have fun, so let's keep it in the spirit of the game 👍

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We wish you luck with your project and hope it works out 💪 It’s always scary going from concept to company!

That being said, towards the end of #LegendsOfLightning we’ll be offering workshops from grant platforms like Geyser & Open Sats, as well as office hours with the tournaments main sponsor Fulgur Ventures (+ Hivemind VC and Lightning Ventures). So you’ll have plenty of access to coaching in these areas you don’t feel as comfortable in! This is why we want to start wearing the “Accelerator” badge 🏃‍♂️

With regards to the feeling of burnout, we’ve been there too. We’ve run those sorts of events in the past (shorter hackathons), but that burn out was the exact feeling we’d get - even ourselves. The longer format tournament is designed to do a couple of things:

You raise a good point ☝️

That being said, two things:

You can now with stories ✍️ All you need is a maker profile which you can create using any lnurl-auth compatible wallet!

Makers can use a basic M⬇️ editor to create content and share knowledge and resources. As you might have noticed, there’s not enough material for devs and designers to absorb when it comes to bitcoin and lightning app development. We want our platform to turn into a bustling hub for makers to share these kinds of stories, tools, and ideas.

Go join the fun!

Nope, we’re just a few plebs having fun 🌀 We do work closely with the Bitcoin Design community though (which was a Spiral led initiative), they do awesome stuff so check them out 🤙

It’s a tough one, at the moment it’s hard to get the interoperability we want as a web app if using all sorts of LN payments. Not to mention we are trying to implement Lightning into our web app without having to custody users’ funds.

One big hurdle we have is collecting pre-images upon successful payment. As you might have noticed, voting 🔥 in the app uses Lightning to send sats to the creator of stories/projects. But in order to increase the tally of votes, we need confirmation the payment went through (👍 0 > 👍 1) . One thing we’ve been pushing for is lnurl-verify, which would allow us to quickly check a payments success.

Thanks for the feedback though, we appreciate the frustration and it’s sometimes one we feel ourselves. You can use:

That being said this is only required for in-app payments, you can still use the app, create a maker profile, write stories etc using any wallet with lnurl-auth support…

A lot of makers have been posting their hacking ideas as stories on makers.bolt.fun ✍️ , just search or post using the tag #brainstorm 🌩

You can also join our community Discord: https://discord.gg/vAPxrwkxWS

Some of the projects on BOLT🔩FUN are still WIP or unmaintained. SatsStreamer was Kwinten DB’s submission to our first ShockTheWeb⚡️hackathon earlier this year, and like a lot of good hackathon ideas it hasn’t been maintained and supported within the maker community - so that’s what we’re trying to solve!

Soon™ makers will be able to add their own projects to our directory, whether it’s a work in progress or launched 🚀

Still waiting … but likely yes 👍

Thank you! Good luck to you too, sir 🫵 ⚡️