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🤝 SN Sellers & Business Club
346 sats \ 20 comments \ @AG 10 Jun AGORA
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Welcome stacker and cowboys to the first edition of this Sellers & Business Club series!
You're in the right place if you're serious about growing your business, or starting a new one. Let's discuss your preferred Bitcoin Business Models!
You'll find everything you need to move faster, sell smarter, and stay ahead of trends—with useful insights for every step of the way, community-powered learning posts, insights, and support from other sellers.
Pinging here @beejay, @deSign_r, @Kontext, @fauxfoe, @DarthCoin, @stack_harder, @BlokchainB, @Solomonsatoshi, @lunin and @021f3af1a6 because have demonstrated some interest in previous announcements, and other stackers1 that have been active in the ~AGORA marketplace.
Your insights and questions are welcome. I'll be opening with some questions:
  • What are your latest wins?
  • What are you dealing with lately?
  • What current obstacles that are keeping you away from succeeding?

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98 sats \ 2 replies \ @BTCLNAT 10 Jun
Thanks for the ping @AG!
Lately, I've been working on Bitcoin education in a small community while also learning some programming, mainly for web development, to rely as little as possible on third parties and hopefully generate some sats income in the near future. I’m still offering my Family Medical Consultation and Advisory service—here’s the link to my page for this service. (Currently, Spanish only)
https://delgado74.github.io/BitMed-Family-/
I’m still struggling to get the word out about my work and proposal, on top of dealing with increasingly slow internet and ISP restrictions that make services less accessible. But my main focus remains on learning Bitcoin—especially Lightning—educating others when possible, and charging for every service in Bitcoin.
You’ll notice that my consultation fees aren’t in dollars or euros—I charge in sats. I don’t care about the price; I only care about getting paid in sats. When you charge in sats regardless of price, you’re effectively DCAing, and that’s the only profitable approach in Bitcoin.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @AG OP 10 Jun
That's great to know things are evolving, and no worries, it will take time but once people know about your service, your calendar will start filling up... waiting list at the horizon. True is that in the medical sector, emergencies are always a thing, but is also good for people to learn about preserving instead curing.
Love the website and the integration with LNbits, congrats! Make sure you share it around so people can bookmark it!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BTCLNAT 10 Jun
Thank you very much. The integration with LNbits was a suggestion from @DaryhCoin, so I want to thank him for the idea. I hope to earn bitcoin income from my work; at least the SATs I've earned from working have been very satisfying.
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @fauxfoe 10 Jun
My businesses aren't bitcoin-based. Not sure if this is the right place to discuss them. I would take bitcoin, of course, but it's not the focus.
But here goes:

Consulting

I have a consulting / coding firm. We're about 10 people. We do business strategy related to open source, especially early-stage. And we write and deploy open source code. The pandemic and changing market conditions hit us, and the business declined a bit, so we're rebuilding with more of a focus on the tech and less on the strategy consulting.
We're customizing code, doing greenfield development, doing a bunch of LLM work, etc. And we provide support for a bunch of open source packages for companies that would totally choose the open source thing if it only had a better support story. We're that story.
The only real issue for this business is that we are paying the bills but not really growing. We're good at sales but not great at marketing and we don't really have the budget to hire a marketing person. We need, like, one more decent sized client.

Energy

I have also launched a business to provide software and hardware in the energy sector. This is station-grade, utility-scale stuff. We're brand new and looking for our first sale, and our big win was getting invited to bid on an RFP and then passing the interview process. Hopefully we'll make that first sale in the next couple weeks and it will come in high enough to pay people for a year or so. If we don't get this sale, I might take it as a sign our market hypothesis is wrong and fold tents. We'll see.
The challenge for this business is getting invited to bid on RFPs when we have no track-record. We're coming in lowish on our first bid so we have a track-record for the future. Our first contract would be for a handful of sites but position us to bid on a couple hundred more, sell more services/products on top, etc. Market is crowded but I think we can get a toehold and there's decent growth potential if we do a good job on execution.
My strategy is to get that first bit of revenue, start paying the team (right now everybody is working for free with bonuses promised on first revenue), and only then will we really make a plan for marketing and sales. To me, keeping my focus on getting first revenue is the key to starting this engine.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 11 Jun
We should talk hmu car@pleblab.com
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG OP 10 Jun
This is impressive, look's really clear to you the goal you want to achieve. I have never been near the RFP so not sure how it works. I just assume that is build up on relations and if your business is new, it will probably take a bit of time. In the other side you have the other business that maybe helps you faster reputation and trust build in that sector. Relations are the real currency, build up on them, sales will come.
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @021f3af1a6 10 Jun
Thanks for the mention @AG! 🙏 I’m just getting started selling rice in Malawi, mainly to support myself as a student. I’m still figuring things out but very excited to learn how Bitcoin can help me grow my business and maybe even connect with buyers outside Malawi. Right now, my biggest challenge is reaching more customers and building trust in a market where Bitcoin is still new. Looking forward to learning from everyone here and sharing progress as I go!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @fauxfoe 11 Jun
This is a pretty informative report on rice production in Malawi: https://riceforafrica.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/malawi_nrds2.pdf
In a commodity market, you want, if you can, to squeeze an advantage somewhere. Rice production in Malawi has a lot of places where it can be improved. There are a lot of places where you could be the force that improves yield, quality, marketing, management, etc.. Any of those might be an opportunity to improve things for everybody and get you an advantage.
And it seems like there is a lot of government interest in supporting that improvement. Maybe there is funding available to speed your growth or help you chase that improvement.
Good luck!
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @AG OP 10 Jun
Make sure you are available and people know where to find you when rice is needed. My understanding is also that you want to sell quantity. Ask yourself: who are the biggest buyers oof rice in your area? Restaurants? Retailers shops? What is the benefit for them to buy from you instead anyone else offering the same product?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @021f3af1a6 10 Jun
This is really helpful advice — thank you 🙏🏽
You're right: I want to focus on selling in quantity, and I’ve started thinking more seriously about who the biggest local buyers are. Restaurants, mini-markets, and even boarding schools might be a great fit. I’ll try reaching out to them directly.
As for standing out, I think consistency, fair pricing, and accepting Bitcoin could be part of what sets me apart — especially for people who want transparent, direct-from-source supply. Still learning, but this gives me a clearer direction.
Appreciate your time and perspective!
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @lunin 10 Jun
Thanks for the ping @AG! We’ve been building Shegby — a decentralized service marketplace that evolved into a bigger vision: a Network State powered by P2P KYC.
We realized early that trust between users is the key to any real peer-to-peer economy. So we built our own Web3 KYC system, where users control what they share and with whom. It’s based on our custom algorithm HumanRank — think PageRank, but for people and connections.
Latest win: We’ve got the HumanRank scoring live and integrated with wallet-based identity. Current focus: Improving onboarding for service providers. Biggest challenge: Scaling trust without central authority — and staying UX-friendly while doing it.
Curious to hear what others think about trust, identity, and KYC in the Bitcoin economy.
P.S. We are looking for financial support and investment. Feel free to contact me or support us directly: #994307
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG OP 10 Jun
Congratulations on your win, step by step, as you mentioned :)
I'm not familiar with the product, so can't really say anything abut it. Providing a good UX and easier ways to integrate to third parties is the best you can do.
How is the market in this sector? What are other organizations offering similar service?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @fauxfoe 10 Jun
This sounds very cool. I've been thinking a lot about this exact issue and have been considering building something similar. You are much further along than I am, and truth be told I am busy with other business.
Scaling trust is hard. Trust isn't transitive. Trust means different things to different people and is specific to each relationship. Trust anchors are scarce in a decentralized system, but maybe there are things we could do about that.
Decentralized identity is also hard. All we really have is consistency. It is hard to distinguish well-connected identities from hydra attacks. People aren't yet used to thinking about identity in sophisticated ways.
I am curious how you're solving these problems. Have you published your human rank algo?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @supratic 10 Jun
Don't Trust, Verify.
That's the motto.
is your code open source?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG0RA 11 Jun
🤙 crossposted to nostr: https://njump.me/note19k4sldxs39m4qg23skxpusttse4whkpv0qlx625ypdqyrpwaws4saq50ta
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Car 11 Jun
This is a great idea @AG this month we are holding a meetup in the regular technology sector our hope is to see if it is much more fruitful. Will see.
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7 sats \ 3 replies \ @AG OP 11 Jun
Sound's brave! Are you venturing PlebLab in the traditional fiat tech scene? It could really be advantageous for both sides. Keep us posted, I'm curious to know about first impressions and which kind of feedback you receive!
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Car 11 Jun
Will do. Tbh I am far more interested in the creation of the intersecting technologies these days around hardware AR/XR/AI/Robotics and how they can play a role with Bitcoin. Looking to find these builders.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @AG OP 16h
That's more specific that what I was thinking! It's a nice intersection with plenty of potential.. just in robotics itself. Ai feels like is already been explored with a pay2prompt approach + DVMs are also a growing market powered by sats via ecash.
AR/XR are parallel world where the limits are only our imagination. Much progress has been done in the web3/altcoin in the space, leaving apart the NFT stuff, I assume some VR has played around with "virtual" payments. I even heard there are events going on in VR worlds only accessible if you pay with specific altcoin... Is definitely a world where bitcoin need more exposure, and today with advancements in the integration with RGB and LN, I see these things happening really soon.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 7h
We have a startup in PlebLab working on XR still very early days, but the robotics and hardware stuff is very interesting to me, that looks like the next new thing to get experimented with.
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