That sounds about right from my experiences in academia. Personal honor is for the students only and they don’t seem to display much of it, either, nowadays, from what I hear. Isn’t decrepitude, devolution and dishonor just the worst?

For sure. They don't spend any time worrying about trivialities, like personal honor (other than to think it's for dummies).

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I sounds like your colleagues are working in academia, aren’t they. If so, they are part of the problem and not the solution. That may be the total and complete explanation for their view points. I am very happy I am no longer associated with academia!