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107 sats \ 13 replies \ @optimism 11h
This works using: -> Lightning for instant and cheap transactions -> Bringin APIS exposed via MCP Model context protocol
It also uses Claude.
Here's an 100% open source implementation using ecash/LN with sovereign AI:
Components:
Benefits:
  1. No EUR shitcoins
  2. Reduced middlemen, only:
    • mint for cashu
    • the mint's LN bridge
  3. NO API KEYS, ACCOUNTS, EMAIL INTEGRATIONS
  4. NO CLOSED SOURCE GATEKEEPING
Did I mention no Claude, no subscriptions, no rent seekers (except the mint)?
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108 sats \ 12 replies \ @Scoresby 11h
How far are we from a mint being run by ai, paying for its infrastructure autonomously, taking on a life of its own on the internet?
Mint running seems risky, but if it was just a llm running it, no human involved, perhaps the vision of let a thousand mints bloom could become reality?
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107 sats \ 11 replies \ @optimism 11h
How far are we from a mint being run by ai, paying for its infrastructure autonomously, taking on a life of its own on the internet?
Very far. Someone codes the AI routines and therefore controls it. Even if the routines are vibe-coded, someone inputs the bad vibes. Also... who is funding the channels?
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Sure, the initial seed money comes from somewhere, but if done careful, it remains hard to trace.
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102 sats \ 9 replies \ @optimism 10h
Obscurity should not absolve liability. Freedom is awesome, but no, not the freedom to steal or fuck up without consequences. 1
The whole "it's risky, so let's have an LLM take the risk" is something really, really dangerous imho. This is what scammers do before they rug you: they make up some narrative why it's not their fault. Then somehow you end up poorer and they richer. Always goes like that.

Footnotes

  1. unless of course, if you fuck with me, I'll be granted the freedom to come and torture you, cut off your head and display it publicly as a deterrent for people to think twice before they fuck with me in the future: "What's in the bag?" ... Opens bag and shows content ... "Eww wtf bro." ... "He fucked with me; this is what happens when you do that." - That's not really considered civilized though, so let's keep the concept of liability.
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99 sats \ 8 replies \ @Scoresby 8h
I think I'm willing to put up with ruggability if I get something that is difficult for Uncle Sam to shut down.
Liability is good to have, but unfortunately we've pursued liability to such an extent that it has given politicians permission to exert a lot of control over the population.
The motivation of my questions is not how can we avoid risk of rugging, risk of fucking up or stealing, but rather risk of regulation.
An llm running a mint isn't decentralized, but it might give us some of the things we like out of decentralization. And you don't have to use the mint if you don't want to.
Kind of like bitcoin: someone got it started and the system is going now. But it is certainly an advantage that no one group or person is operating it or in charge. It's also voluntary, so you don't have to use it if you don't want to.
i am using bitrefill for this trick
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