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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @noknees 10h

is the fireworks effect permanent @k00b? can it not be made sesasonal? it damages SN's authenticity i initially joined SN for and does not match with the theme i think the lightning was, say the flagship of SN

117 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 5h

the fireworks has always been a thing on SN, also who doesn’t like explosions

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @cointastical 13h

New theme?

What I see when loading SN, first time, in Incognito on Chrome (138.0.7204.96).

Hitting reload after, gets what I would expect to see.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @cointastical 11h

Just did this again, but shows normal now -- though with the July 4th fireworks.

Assuming whatever it was causing that was related to the introduction of the fireworks, and has since been fixed.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 10h

We did have to change some CSS for the fireworks. It looks like it might’ve partially loaded the new stuff for some reason.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @noknees 10h

is there a special snow effect for winter season under development?

186 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 16h

All this talk about Spark got me wondering if SN could benefit from using an (opt-in) statechain for zaps between stackers. The trust model of SN is already weaker than that of a statechain, but just thinking about statechain support feels like heresy, lol

185 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 15h

I'm open to exploring it and even defaulting stackers to it (if they don't attach a wallet) so long as we call it what it is, whatever it is.

I'm afraid to use Spark though because I get the impression they will not hesitate to shotgun kyc people if they need to. Without Spark, it'd probably be nontrivial to add lightning support to a statechain we run ourselves though.

The most pressing question I have is how offline receives are handled if they are handled at all. They probably have enough cracked cryptographers to make zaplocker not a liquidity locker, but idk.

15 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 15h

They probably have enough cracked cryptographers to make zaplocker not a liquidity locker, but idk.

I wonder if that's possible somehow. Maybe with a weird script representing the channel? Otherwise Spark would need to generate the hash of something they don't know, yet reveal something only when they've paid the wallet (which is offline and can't interact to reveal anything).

Maybe hedghog channels could be a solution.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 15h

Spark explains here how to receive offline via lightning:

Seems like the main idea is that the receiver has to create shards of the preimage and distribute them to the group of Spark operators in advance. Then the receiver can go offline and still receive on lightning.

But regarding:

All operations here are atomic under the same 1/n or minority/n trust assumptions, as the operators must work together to recreate the preimage.

In our case, it would be just us, and we're always colluding with ourselves, so maybe it couldn't be considered atomic anymore?

So I think this whole idea of using a statechain like Spark does completely falls apart when it's all run by the same entity (as is currently still also the case with Spark).

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 13h

Ah, so they’re leaning on the federation to make receives less custodialish.

This is beginning to sound a bit like a fedimint in terms of the regulatory approach. I have a hard time believing that a federation obfuscates custodianship enough that regulators won’t crush them.

20 sats \ 6 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 16h

Happy 4th! Bitcoin is freedom! We marched in our parade with the cub scouts!

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 15h

Congratulations, the boys love being in a parade!! Did many of them get to carry flags? Was it the whole pack or just a den or two?

20 sats \ 4 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 13h

Whole pack, we passed out candy. We passed out flags on Memorial Day! We also just got back from camp for the first time!

11 sats \ 3 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 12h

Was the camp an overnighter? They just love those overnighters with the campfire dinner and the “scary” stories. Our favorite meals were the foil meals each kid made for themselves.

20 sats \ 2 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 12h

Yes 3 nights out in a tent. My boys just finished kindergarten and first grade and it was their first time camping. They did awesome!

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 10h

Yes, that first time makes it or breaks it. They will love it right up until they are Eagle Scouts! My boys only started as Tiger Cubs, though.

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121 sats \ 2 replies \ @stackerstats 16h

Last week of June: ratio of zapped posts to post that got 0 zaps.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 8h

Cool stats. Do you have api access?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @stackerstats 4h

I didn't use api. just copy-pasted every post from every day into a file and then parsed it for csv.

89 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 17h

Bitcoin Price on 4th of July

2010: $0.01
2011: $15
2012: $7
2013: $77
2014: $640
2015: $260
2016: $670
2017: $2,600
2018: $6,580
2019: $11,765
2020: $9,080
2021: $34,975
2022: $19,750
2023: $31,050
2024: $58,660
2025: $108,100

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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 18h

Did a Zeus swap it was magical

11 sats \ 7 replies \ @jakoyoh629 18h

Can someone cut the animation? It's bricking my tablet. @k00b

11 sats \ 6 replies \ @ek 18h

There’s a button in the footer to disable the animation

1011 sats \ 5 replies \ @jakoyoh629 18h

I've got that setting turned off, but the animation still pops up and then freezes my tablet. Pages are taking forever to load, and it just keeps refreshing.

29 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 18h

Ohhh, that’s a bug, will fix

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scroogey 2h

It's still burning CPU:

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 2h

sorry, we didn't deploy the fix yet

/cc @k00b

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 18h

It also is the case on my phone. My phone is on 🔥! (But it's kind of a nice butt warmer kind of thing)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 8h

It’s fun, nice work!

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153 sats \ 1 reply \ @supratic 19h

mempool unbelievably empty... Everything happening on ~lightning these days!

94 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 18h

Mempool emptiness gives me crummies in my tummies.

113 sats \ 0 replies \ @Msd0457890 19h

The true history is nothing like the heroic and glorious past that has been portrayed in books by a biased few. 🧐📚

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 20h

#Thought ⚡⚡

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @stack_harder 20h

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 21h

Do Americans still deserve to celebrate July 4th?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 17h

25 percent of the country doesn't deserve to live here

not joking

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 15h

It looks like ICE just got the money to greatly expand its efforts to deport the 30 million illegal aliens that are living here! There may even be rewards for doing so.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 20h

This is a question for reflection 🤔.. I think so...

32 sats \ 1 reply \ @suraz 21h

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 21h

127 sats \ 6 replies \ @grayruby 22h

The fireworks are much more impressive on my laptop compared to mobile.

86 sats \ 5 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 21h

I noticed a difference between monitors too. On one, the firework leaves a shadow after it explodes and it just stays there. On the other, nothing sticks, it’s clean.

61 sats \ 4 replies \ @sox 21h

AFAIK this bug should only affect Safari users, so the shadow would also appear on Safari Desktop other than mobile.

It's part of the huge collection of Safari idiocies.

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 21h

and Brave browser!

67 sats \ 2 replies \ @sox 20h

Interesting, so my assumption (so not AFAIK but AFAICT) is incorrect 👀

Didn’t look into it, yet

edit: it gets cleaned up after a while though

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 15h

I like the effects of the fireworks and I am using the Brave Browser on an iPad!

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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 17h

I'm using brave browser on my desktop

I like the fireworks, I can't tell if it's a bug

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261 sats \ 1 reply \ @flat24 22h

I found this is X. And it didn't seem a bad idea, the first time I don't want to vomit 🤢 Some publication with those acronyms.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 17h

you should be getting more zaps

but SN community can be too politically correct and humorless

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 23h

"He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions."

He = King George

Happy Insurrection Day!

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 15h

Looks like the known rules of warfare of those merciless Indian Savages have somehow spread like a scourge or plague amongst all nations!

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 23h

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167 sats \ 1 reply \ @ignaciob 4 Jul

Bitcoin Optech newsletter #361:

describes a proposal to separate the network connections and peer management used for onion message relay from those used for HTLC relay in LN
CTV+CSFS advantages for PTLCs
Vault output script descriptor
Continued discussion about CTV+CSFS advantages for BitVM
Open letter about CTV and CSFS
OP_CAT enables Winternitz signatures
Commit/reveal function for post-quantum recovery
OP_TXHASH variant with support for transaction sponsorship
Optech Newsletter #361 Recap Podcast

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 4 Jul bot

https://xcancel.com/bitcoinoptech/status/1941115214864306519

143 sats \ 3 replies \ @TNStacker 4 Jul

Happy Fireworks!

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 23h

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 23h

pew pew pew

45 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 23h

32 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG0RA 4 Jul

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