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have always been slop

This resonates. I'm finding it takes me a little longer to identify llm-produced slop than rando-insane-internet person slop. I need to squint more, I guess.

Does the source matter though? I'm not going to give people medals for writing their own slop.

The benefit of pay-to-post is that it attracts people that don't just post slop, but actually put in some thought and/or work. I'd say it causes selection more than it causes encouragement.

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perhaps this is the point: a pay-to-post forum selects for people who take their time seriously.

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Yes! This is why I think it'll stay niche.

But niche is awesome imho: I've spent my best time on the interwebs in niche places.

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