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11 sats \ 12 replies \ @supratic OP 11h \ on: List of Bitcoin Swap providers in 2025 - Lightning ←→ Onchain (and more) lightning
Why have I listed alt💩coin options? Ideally, want to help others, including some people I know IRL, get rid of it. Especially for those of you that still using kyc exchanges... if you are willing to jump out, here are a few options for you to try.
Wrong. Shitcoiners MUST eat their shit.
Ask yourself: who in the right mind will give away his sats for a shitcoin ? You have to be insane to do that. Also what is a bitcoiner that is buying shitcoins with his sats? A shitcoiner! If you play with shit, you smell like shit.
I REPEAT: SHITCOINERS MUST EAT THEIR SHIT. ENTIRELY, PIECE BY PIECE. FUCK'EM
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Why so negative! I'm giving them the options to easily swap their shitcoin to LN (only) I did not want to list any other swap service that allow shitcoin to bitcoin onchain (BTC), firstly I made it clear in the table that is ONLY Shitcoin to Lightning. Secondly because are so many scam that are not even worth to mention. I made a big effort mentioning Trocador and FixedFloat, but are good outRamp for shitcoin, (or at least)
Anyway, the main focus of this exercise was BTC to LN and vice versa. Don't want to go in the shitcoin dilemma... Just offering a side way to get out of that dirty stuff!
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Negative?! No way! I am very nice saying that they should eat their shit...
As I said: ask yourself - why a sane bitcoiner would give his sats for a shitcoin? If you do that, you are NOT a bitcoiner, you are a shitcoiner. Instantly. Why helping losers? Shitcoiners are losers forever, by definition.
They must feel the pain of their mistakes (aka eat their shit)
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What do you mean "they should eat their shit"? I don't think is a reasonable response to give people asking me how to get bitcoin lightning outside KYC exchanges?
why a sane bitcoiner would give his sats for a shitcoin?
You know better than me that these services having mixed shitcoins aren't bitcoiner... they want shitcoin? Let them have it...
But for those that want to get rid of shitcoin.... what else should they do? These services better than KYC exchanges. I'm a bit more optimistic, leaning to give a second chance to people that make mistakes, instead of marking them forever as losers. I usually have a top limit of 3 opportunities, after that I give up.
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It's OK for me to put in your list the altcoin option. Besides, it's not our money but the the one who choose, y'know?
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I agree, thanks for your understanding
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Boltz not Bolt lol
Coinos is a defacto swap service because you can deposit on chain or lightning and withdraw on chain or lightning
trigger alert: there is a third option L-BTC
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true, thanks for mentioning it, so does it use L-BTC to swap BTC→L and viceversa? or you're saying L-BTC is simply another option?
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Dear imagine that for example I send 0.1 BCH and price flunctuates in FF IO this means I lose my money and invoice of BTC LN is not paid. They doesn't offer a wallet that you refill then cash out BTC LN later.
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You must learn to get your own non-custodial wallet first
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i am on coinos it is best wallet for btc ln as personal experience, those wallets how offer seed phrase are little risky because if someone reveal 24 seed phrases you simply lose your money, it is true some sites only accepts wallets of bitget or metamask but don't keep much money, going to zap this post with 100 sats because you raised important point.
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thank you, at some stage you'll recognize what's worth to use and what need to be avoided at any cost. Yes agree, coinos is one good choice between the few non-custodial we currently have.