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Who deserves justice that hasn't yet received it?

1164 sats \ 23 comments \ @SimpleStacker 8 Aug AskSN

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110 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker OP 8 Aug

Anthony Fauci

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

Second that one.

35 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 8 Aug

I've always felt that "justice" has taken a strange form in the face of (world) order. For example: have victims of war or their families ever received justice? Will those of the current wars? Will those of the future? I'm pessimistic, but I'm also undereducated.

I discussed this with a friend not too long ago and at their recommendation I have Foucault's Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison sitting on the ebook shelf waiting for me to read it. I guess your question is a sign that I should not procrastinate this and simply spend time reading this.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker OP 8 Aug

Michel Foucault suggests that punishment has shifted its focus from the prisoner's body to the soul — and that our very concern with rehabilitation encourages and refines criminal activity.

Huh. I'm fascinated by this sentence. Not sure I understand it

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 8 Aug

Yeah it sounds interesting! I'll leave a review if I ever get to both start and get through it. Always hard to read translated French books.

35 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 8 Aug

I would also have to include myself. I haven't received justice. Thankfully. Jesus paid the price.

37 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 8 Aug

Hallelujah

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

IMO the justice system as it operates doesn't really provide justice. It doesn't provide restitution to most victims. Instead of the criminals being forced to work like they should the sit in prison providing no productive value to society.

Those that do work do not have their salaries sent to victims. The state loses money on the prison system and create more criminals. I've heard so decent suggestions for reform but it seems pretty hopeless to me. I don't see the state fixing the system.

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

Every president that I have spent more than an hour of study on.

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 8 Aug

abe lincoln?

edit: guess he got justice, whether deserved or not

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

You just had to bring him up didn't you. Terrible. On a scale of how wrong the masses are on someone he has to be near the top.

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 8 Aug

Haha do educate me

60 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 8 Aug

Here's a quick summary

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

You know people are on to something when almost all of the responses are peppered with name calling and ad hominem attacks at the messenger. This is why I hate seeing bitcoiners do this. Its so weak and anyone with critical thinking capabilities is gonna discount what you say.

Anyone that is critical of Lincoln gets these types of attacks. I know because I've been subject to them myself.

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

“Lincoln was a typical example of the humanitarian with the guillotine: a familiar modern ‘reform liberal’ type whose heart bleeds for and yearns to ‘uplift’ remote mankind, while he lies to and treats abominably actual people whom he knew.”

~ Murray Rothbard

Tell me what you really think Rothbard! lol

5 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

I don't have time today. If you really want a different perspective on the man find The Real Lincoln by Thomas Dilorenzo. Guy has the receipts and was tarred and feathered for his work. Lincoln has been so lionized that it is American heresy to even quote him in his own words in a negative light. He was in short a tyrant. Slavery was not the real reason he led the nation into a war. He actually deported many slaves to Liberia. That was his preference.

At best he is a complex man and leader. He did some good but did so in very disastrous ways we are still dealing with. Slavery was only ended by war in one nation. The US. The war was fought to keep states from leaving the union (which was and still is their right). Saying any of this is no an endorsement of slavery or the confederacy but most people are so programmed they don't even think about this topic (I was for years). Probably took 15 years for me to be open to even consider what I was taught in school was a fairy tail (victors write the history thing).

I don't care to debate people on this. If you do the research and disagree. Cool. I'm glad slavery was "banned". I just don't buy the official line. The north and the south were evil in many ways. Its complicated. People like black and white. They think in booleans. I don't. Only when it comes to morals. The state is amoral.

2 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker OP 8 Aug

I'm very open to the idea that Lincoln was a bad dude. I just brought him up because he and George Washington are usually cited as the most universally beloved presidents

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

I think it very hard to be a good dude with that kind of power.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 8 Aug

I would just add. I think we would be better served with a balanced and honest recounting of the past. Not what we are fed. Make up your own mind. But the presidency of Lincoln is responsible for many of the centralized powers many on the right love to complain about.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @hasherstacker 8 Aug

Victims of corruption and exploitation are denied justice because their voices are drowned out by systems designed to protect the powerful. The evil go unpunished not because their crimes are invisible, but because society chooses to look away.