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i understand now why you love governments so much @Solomonsatoshi, its because you think you know everything better than anyone, no matter how close to the thing they are. its a match made in heaven and explains everything very clearly.
Are you not curious as to why @252 left Somalia and where they moved to?
Is it somewhere there is a stable government and rule of law by chance?
Or did they relocate to another haven for pirates and terrorists?
Do any Libertarians live in Somalia under clan and Sharia law?
Maybe you are planning to relocate there since you hate all governments so much?
If not why not?
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @252 21 Aug
I was talking about a specific period of time (1995–2005) and the city where I grew up, which had a population of more than 200k. During those years, there were no Islamic/Sharia courts, no warlords, and no terrorism. There was only minimal/very limited “administration,” and even that was local to the city. Yes, some clans were larger and others smaller, but in those 10 years there were no major disputes. Besides your insult, many non Somalis also lived there peacefully during that period including my teachers. My point is that this particular time and place could be case study of no centralized state.
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Yes there was no centralised state but there were at a clan and community level the reintroduction of clan based common laws and depending upon which clan you belonged to your access to property rights and justice varied. You claim to have grown up there but provide no evidence- it could be a claim made out of convenience given the lack of historical examples of any successful economy ever existing in the absence of government and the fondness of some libertarians to reference this era in Somalia despite the appalling conditions most Somalia live under. Why did you leave and where did you move to? You refuse to answer this too. I suggest you are a fabrication and cannot and will not substantiate your claims. You give no examples of any Libertarians who moved to Somalia to enjoy the experiment in non centralised government which was unfolding- because Libertarians are big on talk but not so much on action. They like most people depend upon the stability and security that governments deliver and do not in reality want to be thrown into a clan based Sharia Law state of anarchy. The fact is the predominance of Sharia law and absence of other centralised authority made Somalia an attractive place for Muslim extremists, pirates and terrorists and such a state was not tolerated by other nations who eventually put in place the current nominal centralised government. Nobody or area lives in sufficient isolation to neighbouring jurisdictions to harbour pirates and terrorists and believe that is acceptable.
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