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Sometimes people call Breez and Phoenix "semi-custodial" - because they can't make random payment on your behalf, but they can block you from making a payment.
Any LN node you connect to can block you from making a payment. I'm most familiar with Phoenix. If Phoenix blocks your payment you can force close the channel and backup from the seed phrase.
Agreed - so the question is whether that should be called self-custodial or not?
I guess one step better than Phoenix is to have your own node with multiple viable channels. Then you shouldn't get disrupted by single node blocking you.
it is the same if you don't use your own node to broadcast your bitcoin onchain transactions.
Again, if you hold your keys, to me is a non-custodial wallet.
I'm with you. Just pointing out the different positions that I've seen people taking regarding these things. Particularly, people running straight LND are the one's calling what Phoenix and Breez do to be custodial.