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Yes, but wouldn’t it be so much better if it wasn’t even possible to cheat?
Okay. I just read the proposals. Now I see the issue, though I'm not sure which side I'm on yet!
I just deleted my last reply. I obviously was reading something that doesn't apply. Can you send me a link?
Thanks. Eltoo has been talked about for a while, right?
I will once I am even slightly informed.
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AI slop is not an article.
When you route you're not taking a fee or moving someone elses money, you're reallocating YOUR MONEY from one channel to another.
Regime change and the utter demolition of the Tornado/Samourai prosecution by FinCEN have left the lightning fud lobby nothing but cope and seethe.
False premise, you still cannot defend claims on-chain from a second layer when you are not online regardless of the crypto theatrics layered on top.
The best an alternative could add would be delay tolerance, which is a step backwards when the justification is to make people comfortable being offline in the first place and you've removed the disincentive for cheaters to even make an attempt.
Internet services do not work offline, your email server, your website, all depend on a server for interactivity. The sooner muppets accept the reality of this the sooner we can move on to real solutions and not efforts of futility.
False premise, you still cannot defend claims on-chain from a second layer when you are not online regardless of the crypto theatrics layered on top.
So this claim here that there's no harm is wrong?
If eltoo is used without a penalty mechanism, there’s no harm in publishing an old state, except that it costs transaction fees to publish.
No harm to the publisher
The risk moves from the attacker to the offline larp wallet
More people will lose funds without justice txs, not less.
While we're at it the channel factories use-case is bunk too... batching already is available and reduces open costs by 80% yet no one uses it because it's not a real problem.
I meant it disincentives the cheater