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142 sats \ 14 replies \ @GreaterthanFiction 11h \ on: Stacker Saloon
Heya! I messaged @k00b about this but wondering if anyone else can help? I’ve recently noticed my sats payouts and what is awarded on SN isn’t adding up. For example I just won a 10k sats prize for Fiction month which is reflected on my post [FM] Last miner but only received 7000 in my WoS wallet? Checked a lightning decryptor and looks like the invoice was for 7k? Also can’t be lightning liquidity as was a couple days ago now.
Anyone else have this or know how to solve it?
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the intention behind the sybil fee is to hurt, especially for big zaps since we don’t know if you’re zapping yourself.
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this also means that two stackers that have equal trust have less impact together than individually. If one of them zaps 10k is more signal in this system than if both zap 5k. I think that’s the opposite of what we want unfortunately and sounds like a game breaker to this idea.
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Good summary! I wasn’t trying to bring that whole discussion back, I just wanted to show that Google put a result for SN in second place. Kinda makes you wonder why Google did that?
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For me it's 12th result -- on page 2.
First result was obituary for one Sybil Lorraine Fee. Others were more general information about sybil attacks, sybil resistance, and then a company called sybil-something.
Interestingly, SN is the first result that uses
sybil fee in the context of fees for the purpose of building sybil resistance.Did SN coin the term
sybil fee?The other judges and I debated whether to do the prizes out of band or via zaps on SN.
Out of band wouldn't have had the 30% Sybil fee, but it also wouldn't have shown up in the competition rankings. And it would have been a little messy. Zaps were clean and everybody in the community could see that we did them.
I suppose we could have zapped each of the top ten 14285 sats (which nets to 10k sats) but we didn't think of that in our budget.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts about how to approach this in future contests.
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Since a lot of people don’t know about the Sybil fee, I think it’d be more transparent to just show the actual prize people are gonna get, or at least make it clear there’s a 30% Sybil fee.
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I think it's the most logical thing...!!!
I think the same thing happened to @GreaterthanFiction as to the winner of the MrBeast Games.
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Thanks for clarifying. I didn’t realise there was a fee but makes sense to keep the platform running. I think mentioning it in the competition terms would suffice. Appreciate the zaps as know these runner up sats weren’t expected either.
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