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I have to renew my mortgage and I didn't like the rates they offered on the loan renewal document so I decided to contact the "mortgage specialist" (whatever that is) and negotiate for a better rate.

My argument is essentially the Canadian economy sucks so the Bank of Canada will be forced to further lower rates over the coming months and I want to benefit from Canada's misery.

Besides, I am a good, loyal customer that never misses a payment and all that other good stuff.

The mortgage specialist unfortunately cannot authorize a lower rate (what the hell is the point of being a specialist if you can't do special things?) so they have passed my file on to their boss for review. I am really hoping the bosses' title is Mortgage Extraspecialist.

Fingers crossed. Lower mortgage payment= more sats.

Sats for all, GR

Good luck, Can you refinance mortgages in Canada?

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Yes but there are usually penalties/fees associated with it. If I don't get what I want I will just renew for a year and if rates drop further as I expect I will get a better rate next year.

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There is an art to making deals go agonizingly slow and grind them to near-halting. Good job on asking for the manager.

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Haha I am the Canadian Karen.

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We have your new intro nickname!

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If the manager can't do it you should write a letter to Mark Carney himself. He has a background in finance, surely he can get to the bottom of this.

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How low are you looking to go?

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0%. Just kidding. I would be happy if they took 25 basis points off the current offered rate.

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Gotta have goals!

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I am interested on whether you get anywhere. I have dealt with mortgages of all kinds in the US for years. I don't think I have ever heard of discretion being permitted to deviate from daily published rates on residential mortgages.

Maybe it is possible?

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Yes, I have done this before. I only got 10 basis points off the original rate but hey I will take it.

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Still, that's fantastic.

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Move to the US where the 30 year fixed can grant you golden handcuffs.

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I will move to Texas and fly a Canadian flag and a 49ers flag outside my house. I am sure everyone will love me.

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Could you wait till they lower rates?

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I could but if you don't renew they just roll it over month to month at a very high rate. For a month or two it's not a big deal but can't do that for too long will be paying hundreds more a month.

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I guess you'd be taking a calculated risk...just how many months will it take till they lower rates?

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I think they will lower this month. Not sure when the next one will be after that.

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41 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 12 Sep

Wait another week and you'll probably get it.

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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @brave 12 Sep

Smart move calling out the specialist who can’t specialize! You’re playing this right, betting on those rate drops.

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LOL even only 25 basis points is a win!

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Seems like people have fancy job titles without the autonomy everywhere in the world haha

Good luck! Hold your guns

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Haha ain't that the truth.

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Fingers croosed🤞Good luck

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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @gnilma 12 Sep

Good luck! How many years you looking to sign?

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Depends on the rate I get. If it is good I will sign for 5.

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No worries, keep posting in Stacker news will definitely make you specialist and make you stack more sats.

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