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174 sats \ 28 replies \ @Undisciplined 4h \ on: Anyone else going down the rabbit hole on the Charlie Kirk Assassination? news
I'm not down the rabbit hole, but I've been peeking over the edge a bit.
I only found this out over the weekend, but it seems the 'official' narrative is this:
- Shooter had the rifle disassembled and carried it to the roof in that condition
- Shooter assembled rifle on roof
- Shooter took shot, disassembled rifle and carried it with him off roof
- Shooter reassembled the rifle in woods
- Shooter left assembled rifle in woods.
I fully believe #1 and #2 could be very probable.
The rest seem very suspect....why would you even bother taking the gun off the roof....assuming you wore gloves, why not just leave it on roof? Further who would ever go thru hassle of disassembling rifle to take it off roof and reassembling to ditch? All seems very confusing....
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Yeah, there are a few oddities like that. If 1 and 2 are accurate, though, the rest isn't too important.
He also apparently changed clothes several times throughout the day, not just immediately before and after the shooting.
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It raises the question: Is the fully assembled gun they found in woods the real gun or a decoy.
Tied in with the people falsely screaming "I shot him" after the event, it seems that this is not just a 'lone shooter', but instead some sort of orchestrated event.
If its the later, then that opens up much bigger questions like what group did this, etc.
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We already know about an online group. If the decoys weren't members of that, then there are a bunch of new questions.
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I think Covid broke a lot of people. Every event isn't being covered up by state actors.
I'm not saying this one is as it seems... I don't trust the FBI but what I have seen so far is a bunch of idiots seeking attention. Could I be wrong? Yeah. Does the official story make sense to me? Yeah. Seems to me to be the most likely. But I don't know anything.
I do know a lot of people's questions have simple answers. Conspiracy theory study is not ideology. It seems to be an addiction for some people.
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I haven't seen answers to why there appear to have been decoys in the audience to distract law enforcement.
Shouting "I'm the shooter", or whatever it was, is very bizarre when a man was just murdered right in front of you.
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Also the other guy, long curly hair and beard, who jumped up and down and made a huge commotion.
Weren't there a total of at least 3 people who were very pointedly doing things that in retrospect seem very much like deliberate distractions?
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That sounds right. I only remember from the immediate aftermath that there were a few, but not how many total.
Unless you knew someone was going to be shot, that does seem like a very inorganic reaction. Of course, they might just be other deranged lefties from the discord group who were in on it and it goes no further than that.
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Now I'm wishing that I had saved everything that I've seen and organize it carefully. Saved the videos, everything. It's so easy for things to be deleted.
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I'm sure someone did. That Laser guy on nostr was documenting a lot of oddities as the story developed.
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One thing I don't get in all of this, especially after what happened to Trump, is you have a couple guys standing behind Charlie watching the crowd for close proximity threats. Why don't they have a guy watching for long range threats. I mean the roof of the building the supposed shot came from was right in front of them. Shouldn't a guy with binoculars be watching that roof?
I know they aren't going to have the same level of security for a college campus event as they would for a Trump rally but seems like a pretty glaring oversight not to have one guy watching for long range threats.
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Yeah, hindsight is 20/20. You bring up a good point. Why wasn't the security for Trump better? I get why it wasn't for Kirk. Turning Point is well funded but it isn't the US Secret Service. I think it is easy for us to not realize how vulnerable we all are.
I was reminded while listening to No Agenda this week how many assassination attempts we have actually had from the 60s into the 80s. There were a LOT of politically motivated violence throughout those decades.
I don't have a hard time believing security details are not good. Especially when I hear that Kirk's friend was the head of it... All of the criticisms are fair but they don't me jump to the conclusion that it was an inside job.
After 911 there were a LOT of really dumb things done to "do something" to secure different places. Its a joke. Many men were stationed places to "watch" for terrorists. If there were the number of terrorists wanting to kill Americans that we were told we would have had MANY more events. We are very lucky they were lying about all that. There are only a handful of people that have both the motive, skill, and drive to do stuff like this. Most people aren't mentally ill enough to do it. That's our only saving grace.
Believe me. We are super vulnerable both on the physical and technical sides. I think we over-estimate our security and security people and over-estimate how many people want to kill others.
That, to me, is one of the most suspicious things.
Why on EARTH wouldn't you at least have a couple drones up there, buzzing around? They're are SO CHEAP now and SO EASY.
That absolutely doesn't make sense.
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Wouldn't surprise me. I didn't put much stock in it, but publishing to nostr at least creates a somewhat permanent documentation. We might at least have some confidence that what we're looking at wasn't altered after the fact.
I'm sure someone did. That Laser guy on nostr was documenting a lot of oddities as the story developed.
Could you link to the Laser Guy on nostr?
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we know everything. I'm not saying there wasn't some leftist group working together. That is not only possible, I think its likely. At the very least we know there are people celebrating this act.
Shouting "I'm the shooter", or whatever it was, is very bizarre when a man was just murdered right in front of you.
There are a LOT of mentally ill people and false confessions are very common. Someone like Kirk brings out these kinds of people.
What I have a hard time with is that it was an inside job and the guy in custody is a patsy. That's possible but I've seen nothing that even makes me suspect that.
What bugs me is that before anyone knows much of anything idiots on the Internet start making dumb claims with no evidence. It seems like a sport for them to me.
We still don't know what happened with the Trump assassination. And Trump is in power. There were many odd things about that event. I just think this exercise can be a huge waste of time and distraction. We know the current admin in Israel is evil. We know they funded terrorism to increase support for their actions. We know the US government has been behind stuff like this in other countries.
Now what? What is known and admitted should be enough to wake people up but it isn't. So to me... there's a bottom to this hole of conspiracy showing the evil actions of the state and political movements. I'm convinced. So what? These people that focus on this solely seem to have no end game except conspiracy porn for gain.
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