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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @kepford 3h \ parent \ on: Anyone else going down the rabbit hole on the Charlie Kirk Assassination? news
Kirk and many on the right are starting to see that there are massive problems with how we talk about Israel. I don't think he was anti-Israel but he was making a point that there is this ridiculous double standard about even questioning the actions of their government and military.
The issue to me is that there is no room for grey areas. There is this you are with us or against us mentality. With some people you can't even be a little bit critical of what that government does or you are a Hamas supporter. Its absurd.
Many years ago I started to wonder why American Christians were so blindly supportive of that government. I started asking my family. Not because I disagreed. I didn't. I just wanted to know where it came from. People got very defensive and combative with me. So I had to do my own research.
Like many things, most people just kinda go along. They don't question. Its one reason we are in this current mess. People like Kirk that push back and do it in logic based arguments are gonna make people angry. Even if they are kind and respectful. Many times that makes people more angry.
Then you have the other side in this. The other extreme. Its a small number but they just hate Jews. Everything is the JEWS. Or, everything is an Israeli plot. Its dumb. Israel political parties do control many US politicians and try to gain support. Its not even a question really. But Israel does not run the US. Its the other way around.
I think, if anything, Kirk revealed how truly powerful open debate is.
So powerful, that everyone agrees that multiple factions around the world, of all different political persuasions, are willing to kill to silence it.
We can't give in to those threats. We need to have more open dialogue and more open debate.
Those who can't tolerate speech are losers. They are losers who don't deserve any respect.
I have had multiple people that I know - that I have never talked politics with - mention recently in the course of standard conversation how there's so much "anti-Semitism" around now.
I didn't challenge them. But I think to them, absolutely any commentary about the war in Gaza that isn't completely pro-Israel is anti-Semitism.
Apparently much of Charlie Kirks financial support came from the deep-pocketed Jewish donors, very closely allied to Israel. That's why he was (originally) uncritically supportive of Israel.
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have had multiple people that I know - that I have never talked politics with - mention recently in the course of standard conversation how there's so much "anti-Semitism" around now.
You probably have a lot of low information "voters" around you as I do. That's what the TV says. But its not a single message anymore. You have people promoting Hamas mixed in with people that think both Hamas and the Israeli government are in the wrong.
They seek to divide us. That's how we are controlled. We should talk about these things like humans. Not be told to shut up or killed.
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But I think to them, absolutely any commentary about the war in Gaza that isn't completely pro-Israel is anti-Semitism.
The sad reality is that these types of attitudes are leading to and will increase anti-semitism.
I remember in the early 2000s realizing that the far left was going to far in their claims that the tech industry was full of hate. In the 2010s they were making stuff up. A nazi thing here. A white supremacist there. Movements that were present in my youth had been marginalized at this point. But they kept calling people Nazi that weren't. They kept calling people white supremacists because they were against quotas for speakers at conferences. I said to many of my friends that they are going to create what they claim to fear and hate.
I think this is what we are seeing. When you call people names like this for long enough some people are just wired to lean into it and say. Yeah, I am. And here's why. Its a human pattern outside of this political conflict. Its a rebellious nature in some people.
The same people that mock the left as snowflakes are doing the same thing on Israel. There are Jew hating people. Plenty of them. But far too many on the right and in Christian circles are lumping everyone into the same bucket because they are lazy and do not want to have a reasonable dialog. They have allowed fear and anger to overpower their ability to reason.
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