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Welp with a 50-44 vote the Democrats only had three cross the aisle. In government funding attempts both Sen. Fetterman and Sen. Cortez Masto have broken ranks. Sen. Shaheen is one of the retiring Democratic Senators who will need to break for the CR to be able to be passed.
Back to this military funding bill Democrats are trying to spin this into something it is not by saying oh "we defeated another House bill full of poison pills" and that is not how any of this works. However, while it was in theory the House bill that was voted the procedural vote allows for the Senate to do what the Senate does for honest to god 99.99999% of bills..... rip out the House text and replace it with their (Senate) text.
So when you see Democratic Senators like Richard Blumenthal say "I will vote yes on a military appropriation bill to pay our men and women in uniform, but if it has all of the House poison pills, no" he is banking on you not knowing that this is literally how the government works. This would have allowed for the House and Senate to both have each others respective bills officially and begin to hash out a compromise.
Reminder this bipartisan legislation that was supposed to replace the House text once the procedural vote was cleared passed out of Committee 26-3 aka more than enough Democratic votes to get passed 60.
Even worse are some of the comments that came out from these Senators that truly are going to be nightmare senarios for them in the future...
“I won’t vote just for the defense appropriations bill, even though that’s my bill,” said Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware, the top Democrat on the Senate Appropriations panel that controls the defense budget.
Sen. Coons at the same time has been a Senator calling for the Senate to return to regular order.... He just did the exact opposite.
Coons and other opponents also argued lawmakers should prioritize talks to end the shutdown — which Democrats demand must include an extension of expiring Affordable Care Act subsidies — rather than passing bills to fund portions of the government.
These people live in a fairy land thinking that something like this is possible. This vote and a lot of quotes from these Senators are going to help reverse the tide and really work towards shifting the polls to blame the Democrats. We have seen this historically time and time before yet for some reason this time around only a small group of Senate Dems seem to be taking their job seriously to fund the government and move forward.
I'm not sure about that last part. By their nature, echo chambers don't really allow critical information through.
I suspect Democrats and Republicans will both continue to believe their own rhetoric without really engaging with the other side.
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You really think that they would be able to pull off spinning it? Last week polls across the board showed the parties getting closer and closer to each other. Initially it was I want to say 56% blamed Republicans and 30% blamed Democrats with 24 undecided/unsure.
On average what I saw with the repolls was Republicans down to 51-52% while Democrats had surged up to 36-38% which happened during a rough week PR wise for the Republicans. I am just not sure that with continued momentum and even Senators like Fetterman coming out and bashing his party that they can keep control of the narrative.
I mean even Steven A Smith has started to push Dems on what is there whole plan because you cant do an all or nothing approach that doesnt work. I mean he walked off the Kennedy Center stage last night before later rejoining the panel. By stalling like the Democrats are doing they are blowing off their own foot when it comes to them currently clamoring for stuff to be done in regular order since they are preventing it.
They also failed to authorize the formal negotiations with the House for 3 spending bills they have already passed. I mean I might be bias since I work for the House but the Senate right now is so screwed up on the left that even when Thune came out today before the vote and said okay we pass this one procedural vote then we can vote on Obamacare tax credit extensions the next day we are in session (Monday because Dem Senators wanted to be at their No Kings Rallies tomorrow/Saturday) and the left went nope.
Even CNN was running it and talking about it going uhhh what is going on here
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You really think that they would be able to pull off spinning it?
Absolutely. After the past 10 years, I'm convinced that locked-in partisans will believe literally anything they're told to, regardless of how transparently stupid or insane it is.
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Maybe your solid bases but we have seen Trump make huge inroads with the minority communities and even unions. I feel like there are enough people in the actual swing states/swing races that the rapid person in Cali yelling at the rabid person in Alabama kinda just wash out each other.
Places like Georgia who have flipped back and forth and Pennsylvania im just not sold that the bases there are so stuck in there ways that they would like someone like AOC walk in and tell them what to do
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That's probably fair. I'm thinking about my colleagues and family members who still watch MSNBC and read the NYT. Nothing penetrates their armor.
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Oh yeah no I feel like is a whole other base lol
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Another great summary thanks!
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Its a very wild time to say the least and the precedent for the future is going to be brutal
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