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Hello Stackers and Predyx users,
We're finally starting to look into solutions for Non-custodial wallets for Predyx (both user and market wallet).
At this point here are 3 solutions which we've been considering:
  1. Spark
  2. Ark
  3. Cashu ecash
However none of them are perfect, they all have their own flaws. Feel free to correct my assumptions:
Spark has privacy issues - as we all must have heard of it recently. All your transactions can be tracked via spark explorer with some reverse engineering. At the same time they have the ability to issue tokenized shares for the markets. No smart-contacts or DLCs "yet", but its in the pipeline. Multi-sig wallet not yet supported for bitcoin, but supported for tokenized shares. They're 100% Lightning native.
Regarding the privacy issue of Spark - here's my argument for using Spark. As you all the know, currently in Predyx all your trades/shares/activity are open and visible to the world. If someone wanted to reverse engineer your transaction, they could easily do so by scrapping the markets/activity. Prediction markets are generally very open in the above regards for transparency reasons.
Ark also has it's own issues. They're not 100% lighting native. We'll need a bolt swap to use their solution. However they do have the ability to run smart-contracts and issue tokenized shares for the markets.
Cashu-ecash: I don't know much about it, but I've heard you need to trust the mint. But its pretty easy to send and receive the token on any type of communication protocol (sms, emails etc)
Please share your thoughts for and against the above solutions. And help us shape Predyx's transition into a non-custodial prediction market.
I'm not an expert but maybe you should try NWC!
And yeah why is it necessary for Predyx to move to non-custodial solutions? If it is necessary, it should not hinder the custodial login and trade making on Predyx.
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why is it necessary for Predyx to move to non-custodial solutions?
  1. Regulations: In the US you either have to have a non-custodial wallet or get a MTS (Money transmitters license)
  2. Trustless and decentralized solutions. Currently every user have to trust Predyx that we will redeem their shares for sats.
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101 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 16h
I use Alby and like how easy it is to use! It's non-custodial so I would look at it!
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I love alby as well. However there is some cost associated with it. It requires to spin a separate VM (Virtual Machine) or a container for each wallet. Cost wise, it may not be a viable solution for us at this time.
I'm basically looking for solutions similar to Polymarket that allows us to issue tokenized conditional market shares that will be redeemable based on the oracle's decision. These conditional tokenized shares must be backed by btc/sats - to overcome bankrun problem.
So basically a trustless, decentralized solutions with non-custodial wallets.
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NWC! Or follow the stacker news approach allow users to choose what wallet they want to use.
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NWC is great, but cannot help us with issuing fully backed tokenized conditional shares.
However that being said, NWC is coming to Predyx either way. Soon you'll be able to login to Predyx with it.
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What about strike API?
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I agree
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nelom 6h
You could always use cowboy 🤠 credits
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For me, the NWC or Ark options are the best for non-custodial, either way, I'm in
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