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LOL you have no idea. ALL govs are corporations.
Did you check their DUNS number?
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like fucking all things and killing people?
People provide services not governments. Govs are just stealing money from people.
Please stop being such a statist, is lame.
I know I know, you've already made posts railing about how things aught to be.
Again, this is how things are. Your post does an excellent job of outlining the difference between a government and a corporation. They do not behave in the same way at all, they're not governed by the same incentives and constraints, they perform fundamentally different functions.
I know you think people are stupid and should not treat the government as any different than a corporation but again, this is simply how you think things aught to be.
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You have no idea how this fucked up world works... maaan you are really living in a cage, in a continuous cognitive dissonance
Your belief in a government is really disturbing.
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I'll give 1 example out of many possible ones.
The government has the power to set rules that all corporations must follow. No corporation has this power. Only government does.
That alone sets it apart, and makes it incorrect to state that the government is a corporation.
Wether you think this is how it should be or not is a different matter. Wether you think this is only because people are stupid and brainwashed is is irrelevant. This is how it is. I don't think this is how it should be. I don't support this state of affairs. But I acknowledge that this is the reality.
It's fine to think things should be a certain way. It's not fine to pretend they are that way when they are not. That's the difference between idealism and delusion.
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No they do not have any power over me. Without my consent nobody have any power over me.
But if you give your consent, then is your problem not mine. Do not try to put me in the same cage you are in.
Please show me that proof, document, from where a government have any authority over me. Where did I sign that and give the power to somebody ?
A gov will be in power as long the dumb people will continue to give their consent.
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Darth, focus. You're not responding to what I said, you're responding to a conversation you're having by yourself in your own mind. I didn't say they have power over you. I said they are not a corporation and to pretend they are is delusional.
"A gov will be in power as long the dumb people will continue to give their consent."
This is exactly my point. You know that the government is in power and you know why. Wether it's dumb for people to do this or not does not materially affect the real true fact that they are in power and that their power and behavior is very different from a corporation.
You know all this Darth, why are you pretending otherwise?
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Do you know what is DUNS number?
Every fucking commercial company in the world must have a DUNS number.
Ok now look at this: every fucking government in this fucked up world have a DUNS number... govs are CORPORATIONS.
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Darth, that's a really stupid argument. "All corporations must have a DUNS" doesn't mean all entities with a DUNS number are corporations.
You're engaging in a Converse Error fallacy here.
All squares are rectangles.
→ True.
All rectangles are squares.
→ False.
Same pattern:
All corporations have DUNS numbers.
X has a DUNS number.
Therefore, X is a corporation.
→ Fallacy.
But more importantly, "Corporation" is a very well defined term with specific legal implications.
A corporation is a specific kind of legal entity created under corporate law. A government is a different kind of legal entity. Having a DUNS number does not make the government a corporation, it just provides a standardized identifier for administrative purposes. The government is a sovereign entity, created by a constitution or statute, with powers that a corporation does not have, such as taxation, law enforcement, and regulation. Governments may create government-owned corporations (also called state-owned enterprises or crown corporations depending on your jurisdiction), but the government itself is not a corporation.
It's perfectly fine for you to have moral qualms about what the government does, that's very good Darth. It's great that you don't like the government. It's not great that you don't understand what a corporation is and what it isn't. Having a DUNS number is not what defines a corporation. And governments are very different from corporations in many ways. Not sure why you're so hung up on this but it just ain't so.
Lastly, I'm not sure if you think that insulting people and constantly saying how fucked up the world is bolsters your argument or if you just enjoy being an asshole, but I just want to let you know that it does not bolster anything, and that you're a proper asshole.
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Governments are crucial enablers of the economy and security of citizens.
Without government no strong economy can exist- there are no property rights, security or rule of law.
You are free to go somewhere there is little or no government but you will not because you are not insane or suicidal, are you?
But you are a hypocrit because you cling like a baby to the nation state and the security and economy it enables for you to live under.
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Without government no strong economy can exist- there are no property rights, security or rule of law.
Government is the entity that specializes in violation of property rights. But you want to give it credit for protection of property rights. Your brain is a square circle.
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Without government how are property rights enforced?
How do I defend my land and assets from those who would seek to take it from me?
Without government it is the law of the jungle- the strongest can seize property from the weakest with impunity.
Government recognises this and puts itself in place as the strongest entity but where it is well operated it can and dose protect property rights in such way that wealth security and prosperity can develop.
Government is a natural role that has evolved from the nature of humans as humans are weak and greedy as individuals but can achieve much greater strength as a group.
Of course there are trade offs with government but overall it has proven an essential part of any human community.
You ascribe only bad attributes to government but in fact it is a human construct and is made up of humans and so is variable in quality just like humans.
Not all government is bad.
There has only ever been sustained wealth and prosperity where there is good government. We need to fight for it and not completely give up on the entire thing because without good government we are more or less fucked.
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