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121 sats \ 5 replies \ @OneOneSeven 17h \ parent \ on: Stacker Saloon
That's really interesting, PvE AI is a pretty big deal for the feel of extraction games.
I played Tarkov a little but it just feels so hardcore, punishing and clunky.
I played Tarkov a little but it just feels so hardcore, punishing and clunky.
Yeah, that’s why I never even played it. Just watching other people play made me realize it’s way too sweaty. Games should be fun, not feel like work.
I saw people joking that ARC Raiders is "Tarkov for employed people," haha. ARC Raiders was also originally supposed to be exclusively PvE, but they noticed it's not fun, so they made it PvPvE. People hated the decision at the time as you can see in the comments here:
Coming from a big fan of your studio (I'm so excited about what you guys are doing with reinforcement learning for animation and natural language), I am disappointed by the change in plans for ARC. PvE was a bold direction, but I'm convinced that you guys were going to deliver an experience head and shoulders above the current trends; something that would justify its defiance of genre fashions.This move to an extraction shooter is lazy. I'm sorry to be rude, but that's what it is. If what I've read about Embark is to believed, you are a studio of leaders, not followers. Your excellence justifies your creative risks.I hope you reconsider this decision, and if this was imposed upon you by investors... show them your track record and convince them otherwise, and if that doesn't work, what's the point of Embark Studios? The industry is stagnant. Stick to your original vision, shake up the scene, and stand out!
But I think it's not even close to Tarkov. However, I'm also worried it will get sweaty over time and more and more people will kill on sight, instead of collaborating against the ARC. They can easily kill you if they catch you off guard or swarm you.
But I think that there's PvP is important. Looks like they made the right decision by adding it. Huge respect for sticking to it despite the negative initial feedback and delaying the game by three years to release it this good.
Btw, fwiw (and if that means anything to you), Embark (the studio behind ARC Raiders) was founded by Ex-DICE people.
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Loved DICE, their Battlefield: Bad Company games are probably my favorite pvp shooters ever.
It's funny they kinda followed Fortnite's dev plan, which was originally a PvE game called Save the World, then their little half-assed PvP mode they threw in just blew up in popularity.
The extraction game I've played the most (not as much lately) is Dark and Darker. Tarkov + Dungeons and Dragons. They have some cool concepts that I hope other games explore more, i.e. multi-level raids where you can choose to leave or progress deeper in the dungeon to a new map.
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Did you find the "2 player puzzle"?
😂😂😂
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Darkest Dungeon
Another GOAT, I still get their names confused lol
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