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Ukraine agrees to full terms of US's proposed peace proposaledition.cnn.com/world/live-news/russia-ukraine-us-peace-plan-trump-11-25-25
610 sats \ 22 comments \ @Coinsreporter 14h Politics_And_Law
• Ukraine has agreed to a deal to end the war with Russia with only “minor details” outstanding, a US official said, even as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said more work needed to be done.
• It comes as US Army Secretary Dan Driscoll holds meetings with Russian officials in Abu Dhabi about a proposed plan for ending the war, according to a US official.
• Russia though could reject an amended US peace plan if its terms are “fundamentally different” to the understanding reached during the US-Russia summit in Alaska, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.
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21 sats \ 18 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 11h
No way Ukraine agreed to all that. It's totally another Trump move!
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21 sats \ 17 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 11h
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21 sats \ 16 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 11h
full terms ≠ core terms
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33 sats \ 12 replies \ @optimism 8h
What EU MSM is saying over the last few hours is basically that they "want to discuss it".
Also:
We now count on the support of our European partners in our further steps.
They're going to try to convince the EU to not back it and then blame the EU.
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100 sats \ 11 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7h
From what I've heard, and I might be missing something, all the bad stuff in this deal is bad for Ukraine, not for Europe. I don't get why Europe wouldn't back it if Ukraine is cool with it. Europe just can't keep funding this war forever, though. The end needs to be close.
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33 sats \ 10 replies \ @optimism 7h
The war ending is bad for Europe because can they defend Finland, the Baltic states and Poland without the US, while being busy securing Ukraine? I think no.
Not enough F35s and definitely not enough anti-drone platforms, since that's what they've been using F35s for. Potentially not enough nukes.
I think that there is some catch here. Zelensky cannot say no because he doesn't have the political capital. He made that clear. Trump and Putin want this. The only ones that can say no are the EU
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100 sats \ 8 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7h
The war ending is bad for Europe because can they defend Finland, the Baltic states and Poland without the US, while being busy securing Ukraine? I think no.
I don't get what you're saying, can you break it down?
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33 sats \ 7 replies \ @optimism 7h
  1. Putin has been making war since 2008. If he "wins" in Ukraine where is the next war going to be?
  2. Trump has been making clear that because he is unhappy with the share of EU contributions that the US will not honor Article 5 if Russia invades.
Thus: the EU no longer has a US ally - NATO is politically dead. It has an aggressor on the east border, one that will, when this war ends without a Russian defeat, stretch from Northern Finland to Southern Ukraine.
That's the position the EU is now finding itself in. If they collaborate on this plan they are fucked, if they say no, they're fucked. Its getting fucked time in the EU.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 1h
Update:
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 10h
US official said full terms and Zelensky is just about ready to fly to America to meet Trump to say 'Yes' to everything. The ball is now in Russia's corner. They can deny, Ukraine is ready.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xbitcoiner 10h
I'll only believe Ukraine agreed to full terms when I see it with my own eyes.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 10h
I too. But I don't think Ukraine is left with any other choice here.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 11h
Sadly Russia has already shown no interest in agreeing to this. It does make me wonder that if this fails again if Trump will opt to give Ukraine tomahawks.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter OP 14h
Wow we have a prediction market for this as well on Predyx! https://beta.predyx.com/market/russia-x-ukraine-ceasefire-in-2025-1760830923
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 7h
Misleading title; Ukraine agreed to no such thing.
FTA:
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky believes the “principles” of the US-backed peace proposal aimed at ending Russia’s war in Ukraine “can be developed into deeper agreements.”
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