Dead0.0%
CoinJoin will recover16.7%
Alternatives like CoinSwaps are coming0.0%
MimbleWimble+softfork will fix it in BTC0.0%
Better to use altchains0.0%
Lightning is good enough83.3%
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100 sats \ 17 replies \ @kruw 12h
Coinjoin never died, check https://liquisabi.com/ for live stats.
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0 sats \ 16 replies \ @satsbridge OP 11h
No, it has died and more importantly some of its users, probably a majority, could be doxxed at scale.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kruw 6h
Only Samourai users could be doxxed at scale, and Samourai represented only a small fraction of coinjoin liquidity compared to Wasabi.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @satsbridge OP 5h
20% of users (dev's words on hearings) is substantial.
There is a caveat that Dojo wasn't around from day one. So it may be 20% of users at the moment of their arrest.
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0 sats \ 13 replies \ @Filiprogrammer 10h
How?
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0 sats \ 12 replies \ @satsbridge OP 10h
It is not 100% clear if FEDs could access collected XPUBs of Samourai Wallet users, but it was mentioned on the hearings and developers reported about 20% of users that were using Whirpool coordinators.
https://www.therage.co/samourai-wallet-maximum-sentence/
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0 sats \ 11 replies \ @Filiprogrammer 9h
This refers to the shut down Samourai Whirlpool.
But the coordinators listed on https://liquisabi.com/ use the WabiSabi protocol used by Wasabi Wallet which does not share the users xpub.
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0 sats \ 10 replies \ @satsbridge OP 9h
Yes. It was my mistake.
However, the BlocSci tool has a collection of known WabiSabi flaws when it comes to chain analysis. Albeit I am personally do not consider it as flawed protocol unlikely to JoinMarket for which my own analysis indicates that Fidelity bonds are ineffective and there is high likability that the orderbook is full of Sybills.
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0 sats \ 9 replies \ @optimism 8h
this BlockSci?
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10 sats \ 8 replies \ @fd055dcc2f 8h
there was a recent fork
https://github.com/crocs-muni/blocksci
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121 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 12h
nice try shitcoiner...
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 12h
I'd like to see Joinstr up and running.
I read somewhere that integrating payjoin might even save TX fees. That's a great way to get a larger crowd.
For spending I think LN is good enough.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @kruw 11h
The sender pays the mining fee for one of the receiver's inputs. It's a fee transfer rather than a fee saving.
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