So - I am setting up a new lightning node on an Umbrel. Everything was going smooth and I opened a channel with stacker news with 500k sats.
Next - to be able to receive sats (inbound liquidity) - I did a loop out with 300k sats. It was stuck on initiated for a while then just completely disappeared - not in history, not anywhere on the GUI, but the sats was gone. An hour after, I paid a 30k sats invoice as prepay that showed up on the GUI.
I debugged it with lncli listpayments --include_incomplete and it shows up as "IN-FLIGHT" - decoded the payment request and it has an expiration of 1 year. (see JSON below). So, I am guessing it's either completely gone or will come back to me in a year.
I would like to know what did I do wrong though, so it won't happen again. It's $70, so not the end of the world. But, I was planning to fund my node with serious money - is this kind of thing common?
What is a pleb to do to be able to receive 100k-500k sats for occasional robosats orders?
Thanks for your help!
JSON
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which is the max block it'll be stuck for, which is about 200 blocks from now or around ~30 or so hours from now.