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I learnt that unripe persimmons are astringents during the usual wikipedia info dump while eating one 15 minutes ago lol
never wanted to ate a normal persimmon, the consistency creeps me out. so one day my grandpa brought me some “kaki mela”, which is Italian for fuyu/apple/non-astringent persimmons, and it was love at first bite! they’re as sweet as loquat imo.
had to search the translations, never heard of them in eng