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100 sats \ 16 replies \ @ek OP 14 Dec \ parent \ on: Which hard problem did nostr solve? nostr
Do you have the freedom to delete your notes?
Are relays required to store your notes and allow anyone to access them forever?
Why would I store all my notes forever? I don't give a shit about what I posted a month ago and nobody also will read it.
I think nostr is something more than just posting notes and memes, but people still do not see it.
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Digital freedom means to me that I can do whatever I want, and nobody can stop me, but is that really the case on nostr?
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not really, you can't do anything you want on nostr. You still depend on a relay policies, if you do not run your own relay.
I think this is the point where most of people understand it wrongfully: they compare it with twatter.
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if you do not run your own relay.
Exactly, IF.
But are most people running their own relay? Could nostr “work”, as in provide a good user experience and/or scale to enough users to actually replace existing social media apps for most, if everyone ran their own relay, to actually achieve the digital freedom nostr wants to provide?
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The mistake are doing people is to use nostr as a new twatter.
I personally use it too, like that (even that I never had a twatter account), but just for fun and have a "public face"...
But the strong capabilities are when you:
- run your own relay(s)
- use your relays for private communication
- use your own relays for your own NWC accounts
- use your own relays or chat rooms like hivetalk or White Noise messenger
- use your own relays when you run your own nostr market
Relays are like billboards : you can make them public or make them private.
A lot of things can happen on private relays and nobody knows about or censor it. THAT is its strong argument.
If everybody run his own relay but make it public, it doesn't achieve too much thing. Is mostly noise.
Not sure if you remember the defunct MS SharePoint... something like that could be nostr, a private intranet but also can be extended to a public extranet.
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The mistake are doing people is to use nostr as a new twatter.
Well, it's literally how nostr describes itself:
The simplest open protocol that is able to create a censorship-resistant global "social" network once and for all.
So I think it's fair to measure nostr using it's own measure stick.
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That definition is not the original one, it was adapted to please clueless testers :)
See my 1st comment: #1339243
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Yes you can. I've ran
strfry on a ROC-RK3328-CC with a T7 for hd. The most time went into building a clean non-sloppy image.reply
What's the significant difference between running my own relay, or hosting my own website?
To host my own website, I don't even need to run a server, I can just use object storage.
I'd even say I have more freedom hosting my own website, because I can decide everything, like how it gets rendered etc.
Nostr clients decide how my content gets rendered.
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Does the object storage not run on a server? You can run strfry in firecrackerd so that amazon can gaslight you that because there are no servers you pay more.
Also. No, you don't decide how it gets rendered to me. I do. If I don't like your site I will do things to it. For me.
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Does the object storage not run on a server?
It does, but it's not me maintaining it.
Technically, most aren't "running their own servers," because they are just virtual machines in some data center.
No, you don't decide how it gets rendered to me. I do. If I don't like your site I will do things to it. For me.
Fair! I was referring to HTML as a spec for how to render things. If you don't respect it, yes, I can't decide for you. More freedom to you, too!
Is a website same as a note or an event ?
Keep in mind that over nostr we do not have only dumb notes or memes, we have also events.
I don't think you can compare nostr in general with a website, are 2 different things. Like many are comparing SN with nostr. That is dumb. Just because you can use zaps on both it doesn't mean they have the same purpose or could be compared.
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Even then, it can't be compared. Are two different things.
For a website you still depend on a DNS that can censor you.
With nostr, for example I can run my own relay and a nostr market over wss and an IP and nobody can stop me or censor me. I will allow only specific npubs to access that relay.
So no, with a website you do not have that total freedom you want. Now for example with nostr we can replace all those Tor underground marketplaces with wss nostr markets.
I hope someday we will have a decentralized DNS but I doubt it. We will have to build a parallel network for that.
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