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I raise the issue of Chinas strong economic performance because it is an example of how important governments and their actions are to the performance of an economy.
Almost exclusively this provokes attacks on me asserting I am somehow a CCP bot or suchlike nonsense, because it does not conform nicely within the Libertarian dogma but they cannot refute it.

They do not seem capable of dealing with the reality that government leadership and strategy can have significant effect on economic performance and in some cases can achieve results the free market cannot.

I look forward to one day someone here addressing the issues I raise but until then their attempts to shoot the messenger and avoid the questions raised speaks for itself

Yes born and bred in NZ- Irish/English/Viking stock.

BTW why don't you have a gun with which to zap sats P2P here on Stacker News?

If you had one I would zap you some but you don't and so I wont.

BTW why don't you have a gun with which to zap sats P2P here on Stacker News?

Because I pay by QRcode on the screen. Why should I 'attach a wallet' when I can pay by QRcode? In fact I have zapped more on Stacker News than I have 'been zapped' because I believe in Bitcoin

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'Why should I 'attach a wallet' when I can pay by QRcode?'

Because it would be inconvenient if you are frequently zapping others content.

So surely inconvenient to use QR code every time you wish to zap someone- will have to take your word for it that you ever do.

My position is that a lot of bitcoiners are very vocal about the P2P circular economy but do fuck all to actually advance and participate and support it.

The team at SNs have worked hard to enable this unique P2P V4V social network and I am not going to zap any of my precious sats to anyone who cannot be fucked attaching wallets and showing they too are serious about using and strengthening the LN.

Do not trust- verify- never zap anyone who is not showing a horse and a gun.

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rather inconvenient to use QR code every time you wish to zap someone- will have to take your word for it that you ever do.

I don't 'attach my wallet' to spend because I see it as a security vulnerability. And when I do 'sit down' and take my time to use Stacker News (I don't use it typically on mobile) I much rather buy some CCs or zap directly posts that demonstrate real heart and effort.

My position is that a lot of bitvcoiners are very vocal about the P2P circular economy but do fuck all to actually advance and participate and support it.

100% Agree. The bear market shows who people really are.

The team at SNs have worked hard to enable this unique P2P V4V social network and I am not going to zap any of my precious sats to anyone who cannot be fucked attaching wallets and showing they too are serious about using and strengthening the LN.

I love Lightning and Stacker News and have used it world-wide.

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Attaching wallet for gun and horse status demonstrates you are serious about using LN and are not just here as an arsemilking parasite...that's what I think anyway whenever I see only a gun and why I will never zap anyone who does not have a gun themselves.
It requires a very small effort and small if any risk...but shows commitment.

Stacker News is one of the few global communities where we can enjoy LN P2P V4V.

What security vulnerabilities do you see in attaching a spending wallet?

I use Coinos which holds a small float amount around $NZ50-100 and is very convenient and charges very low fees.
I see this as supporting both coinos wallet and their liquidity and the LN more generally.

I do not see it as any real or serious risk to my stack which is held in L1 cold storage.

We must use LN or it will not grow and develop to its potential.

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Stacker News is one of the few global communities where we can enjoy LN P2P V4V.

I agree... although I think that will change. From what it looks like... AI agents are going to start using crypto/Bitcoin etc soon and like real soon to pay each other.

What security vulnerabilities do you see in attaching a spending wallet?

I never participated in 'crypto' Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency I have ever used, and so the idea of 'attaching a wallet' just sounds like crypto BS to me. It's not of course SN is the real deal...

However a wallet should never be 'attached' I want to make a conscious press-a-button decision to pay from my Lightning node which I do pretty often honestly.

I use Coinos which holds a small float amount around $NZ50-100 and is very convenient and charges very low fees. I see this as supporting both coinos wallet and their liquidity and the LN more generally.

I like CoinOS it is a really, really easy platform to use that's easy to understand.

I do not see it as any real or serious risk to my stack which is held in L1 cold storage.

Of course.

We must use LN or it will not grow and develop to its potential.

I agree 100%. In many, many posts I have said this exact same thing and critiqued Human laziness and even greed. If so-called Bitcoiners devoted even 1% effort to really SPENDING Bitcoin, really going out there and demanding to pay in sats we might never have bear markets. But I guess that's how people are. I look at it as a way to get sats on the relative-cheap.

Look through my post-history where I have thought about this again and again.

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The vast majority of your spend appears to be creating items or boosting although the definition in the graph is poor and its hard to separate the colours/zones but that's roughly what I can see- there appear to be very limited zaps sent to fellow Stackers that I can see in your graph- just a very thin red line...maybe 20% of total spend?

You say you want to zap directly from your wallet rather than attaching a wallet - sorry but I do not see any security issue as long as the wallet you attach is a small float and the likes of coinos- you still must consciously decide to zap by pushing the zap button on the page- but the evidence of your graph vs mine is that attaching a wallet makes it a lot more convenient to zap and thus participate in V4V.

I do not see any valid reason for you not attaching a spending wallet- just a lot of sophistry and excuses...and this is the problem Bitcoiners are more talk than action.

Back to the issue you raised- I do have some sympathy for China - anyone who has read the history from The Opium Wars and who has a conscience would. But I have never presented China as morally superior to the west except in terms of its actual economic performance where it has achieved incredible results. If I am honest I am culturally biased toward the west because I am a westerner and benefit personally hugely from the global hegemony we exert over all other cultures.
NZ is part of the US Five Eyes spy network and we are definitely subservient monetarily and militarily to the USA- yet today, like many other nations China is more important to NZ for actual trade in commodities and manufactured goods.
IMO the real bias is from the one eyed Libertarians and US exceptionalists who cannot cope with the reality that Chinas state capitalist mercantile economy is beating the west at its own game.
IMO their inability blindness to accept and confront the model China represents is dangerous, arrogant and naive. The world will never conform to our dogmas and expectations- it will do what it does and being blind to major changes and challenges leaves you vulnerable and ignorant. That is how i see many Libertarians even if I agree with them on many things.

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do not see any valid reason for you not attaching a spending wallet- just a lot of sophistry and excuses...and this is the problem Bitcoiners are more talk than action.

You and I use Bitcoin, by the virtue of being on Stacker News, more than 99.9% of Bitcoiners and that is the issue. I'm not going to go into into this discussion (you respectfully don't know what you are talking about) except to say that you and I are not the problem. It's the many who could easily participate and for reasons I don't understand choose not to.

IMO the real bias is from the one eyed Libertarians and US exceptionalists who cannot cope with the reality that Chinas state capitalist mercantile economy is beating the west at its own game.

Please go out and touch grass. Stacker News is such a small community... nobody cares what we think.

That is how i see many Libertarians even if I agree with them on many things.

We are all Libertarians in the end... even if we don't realize it right away.

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Yes we are a small minority but we have the chance here to zap and stack!
I care about what we think and how we can discuss all and any topics.
Ideas can change and spread...small groups have many times changed the world starting from a small base.

A horse and gun is a basic thing we can all do at very low risk and great reward...being part of a functional BTC/LN V4V community.
If we can show this can be done ( and we are!) then it can grow from here.

Both you and I are capable of attaching gun and horse and leading by example while refusing to zap anyone else who refuses to evidence their commitment to the LN and V4V.

Live by a values we hold- do not trust-verify- show your commitment with attaching and thus showing a hose and a gun.

We may be small but we can be a strong and functional community SNs is the only social media I can enjoy and it is important to me we all make the effort to grow it and LN along with it.

LN needs to be used to grow stronger- anyone saying they want that but not using LN here is looking like a hypocrit.