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No hostility at all, unlike the comment you say you agree with that calls me an assmilker (really? wtf guys... assmilking CCs would be the dumbest thing ever).

I'm just saying that even though I personally don't care, this gun emoji maximalism is ignorant. You see, if I zap you CCs, you have credits to make more posts, exactly at 1CC=1sat. It's like someone gives you an amazon gift card and you call them an assmilker. It's insanity and it's driven by a wholly insane person.

DESPITE ALL THAT, I am willing to invest time (when I have time to think about a 100k sats / month problem instead of my current 10M sats / month problem) and do y'all favors. I was testing Zeus for NWC but it's still unstable for me, so that path is closed for now. However, the more idiotic this gun emoji discussion gets, the less I care about that either and the more I will postpone. Who do y'all think you are? The fucking LN popo?

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I didn’t say I agreed with it. I said I think about it more.

Before I zapped at will didn’t matter what icons where near the name but ever since Siggy mentioned it and Solomon attacks Darth about it I do think about it more but it hasn’t changed my zapping habits.

I would never call/called you an assmilker and if I did I apologize.

The CC aspect changed the dynamics with those who want to zap sats and earn sats versus those who use CCs to their advantage to maximize their sat stash. I never spent much time thinking about this because I didn’t care.

But now I can see how some get annoyed and frustrated and I would too. Here I am spending real sats while others just zap me CCs but like you said CCs are used for posting so in the end it could be a wash but I can also understand people wanting sats.

Lastly, I zap because I like LN and I believe giving people sats on this platform is kick starting the circular economy. Darth thinks I’m done but I’m here to have fun and to learn and zap and so far I have achieved my goals.

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ever since Siggy mentioned it

Siggy mentioned it because Solomon attacked him about it - without thinking and wrongly, because siggy just had his icons hidden. Here: #1291470

So all this is a thing where anyone without a stupid emoji is getting accused by an insane person, and you're all jumping on the bandwagon. I think you're all being played.

The CC aspect changed the dynamics with those who want to zap sats and earn sats versus those who use CCs to their advantage to maximize their sat stash.

Do you really think I am protecting my sats by spending more than I earn? How does that work? I'd need at least a horse emoji for that? Also anyone can game these emojis by connecting something that doesn't work and then setting zap limits higher than anything they'd zap. It's all bullshit.

But now I can see how some get annoyed and frustrated and I would too.

What I get tired of is people telling me what to do. If you don't like the CCs you get, donate them, or let them sit. I don't care. If you don't want to zap me because of some poor narrative that is meant to divide stackers, don't... if you zap me I won't run with the CCs... I can't.

Ultimately, if you want CCs to go away, it has to be fixed on the SN side, not on the stacker side. It's a feature that is needed for anyone that doesn't want to use banks and doesn't have a node running, such as myself. I think I have good reasons for not running an NWC-capable node at the moment, but I don't think I need to explain myself (even though I did, multiple times, but yet that doesn't stop the accusations.)

So, from where I am sitting, someone here is getting a hardon from the division they are creating. And I generally ignore it, but you're the third stacker this month to reply to such a comment that was directed at me. And the third to defend this campaign of division, which fwiw coming from someone that simultaneously is running "libertarians suck, communist governments are better" and the "china has beaten the US" divisive campaigns. Maybe y'all are this smart and I'm stupid... idk. I have personally been on the receiving end of all these campaigns. Why?

Darth thinks I’m done

Darth can think whatever he wants... it's annoying at times though.

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I see you are definitely in your feelings about this topic. All I said I was thinking about it that’s it.

Not trying to put a battery in your back I didn’t know people were coming at you for not having the emojis.

My stance is clear I like SN and I like zapping. That’s it and that’s all. If CC really bothered me I would have left a long time ago clearly I don’t care. People can do as they wish. I will still be here posting and enjoying my time on SN.

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If you think that this is "in my feelings", then wait until I truly get emotional haha

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Hahahaha

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What on God's Green Earth has happened to this thread lmao we done taken a hard turn at some point and I am bamboozled lmao

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Hahahaha heated discussion about zaps!

We have often disagreed on things but I applaud you take the effort to attach sending and receiving wallets.
When a public servant can and will do this there is still, perhaps, hope for our democracies.

The fact is CCs were introduced by SNs because of the risk/threat of government prosecuting for Stacker News custodying sat and therefore being alleged to be a money transmitter.

To avoid that regulatory threat CCs were introduced as was the option of attaching wallets.
The aim was always to build a V4v P2P sats denominated circular economy and platform everyone can use. CCs were always primarily for those who could not attach a wallet. But following @DarthCoin s example more and more who are capable are not bothering.

If you want to support the LN and BTC development in general then attaching a wallet means that every time you transact here you are supporting LN and wallet development.

If you dont care about LN and wallet development ok dont bother attaching wallets.
It is pretty easy now to attach a wallet like coinos and my beef is with people who claim to be hardcore bitcoiners but who cannot be bothered attaching wallets and who therefore are not supporting the LN and V4V P2P sats denominated circular economy that the SNs devs have enabled. They are hypocrits.

I love the ability to use BTC/LN/sats V4V platform everyday P2P here on SNs.
Maybe you dont care. Ok.

Those emojis are verification of your and my relative stances on the matter.

I am very reluctant to zap anyone who cant be bothered matching their pro Bitcoin words with action.
When I zap I send sats P2P via LN.
You dont.
There is a difference.

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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 3 Feb
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You're advertising a bank. And not a good bank, but one that continuously gets hacked because the operator has no idea how to run a secure financial service. If you're such a hardcore bitcoiner yourself, why are you using a bank?

I'll get a proper connectable wallet back eventually, and yes, I know you won't zap me. Don't. I don't need your divisive sats. Good luck with your hate campaigns. Now fuck off, pretty please.

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Coinos has extremely low fees but yes occasionally there are glitches.

if you have the technical ability to use another wallet then all good but if you dont then coinos is working very well for me and many others.

The LN is still a work in progress- if you wait for it to be perfect it may never be...it needs our support and patronage now to grow stronger.

As @Darthcoin says CCs are 100% reliable.

But they are shitcoins and they are not sats.

This all highlights how much work still needs to be done in developing reliable and strong wallets and user friendly ones that everyone or almost everyone can use.
By using what we have it grows stronger- by refusing to use what we already have you are not supporting the development of stronger wallets nodes and systems.