Maybe is time for you to hang out more on SN and nostr and not so much in the "dev community".

DarthCoin

Nostr is built using tools the web has made ubiquitous

Why there are Lightning devs that don't want Lightning to be the money of the web? Maybe the answer is NGO salaries

"nostr is built using tools i'm familiar with" probably is *the* explanation for why most devs craft solutions with it.

how to get more devs who are familiar with byte-level protocols? maybe the answer is vibecoding

niftynei

Privacy/hostile network resilience (regular SSL traffic)

Identity de-coupled from the payments protocol makes for better social integration and HA across disparate Lightning nodes

Nostr is just json and websockets, seems there are not enough lightning devs that know how to build on top of json and websockets, may be a lesson there

bitcoinplusplus

AMA with niftynei, Founder of Bitcoin++

btcpp

Separation of concerns

Browser deliverability

Privacy/hostile network resilience (regular SSL traffic)

Performance and reliability (onions bad)

Identity de-coupled from the payments protocol makes for better social integration and HA across disparate Lightning nodes

Nostr is just json and websockets, seems there are not enough lightning devs that know how to build on top of json and websockets, may be a lesson there