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I have become more and more leery of "leaked" internal letters or memos from companies and the government given how they have tended to play out in the public. However, I do not think that is the case when it come to this letter given how pointed and how it really harms any sort of reproachment between the U.S. Admin and Anthropic.

I am trying to find full access to the letter but have not been able to yet. Numerous people have confirmed parts of the letter though and Anthropic is going full scorched earth. In the letter CEO Dario Amodei made the following comments:

  • "The real reasons DoW and the Trump admin do not like us is that we haven’t donated to Trump (while OpenAI/Greg have donated a lot),"
  • "We haven’t given dictator-style praise to Trump (while Sam has)."
  • Amodei claimed the company had risked the fallout of the Admin because it "supported AI regulation which is against their agenda, we’ve told the truth about a number of AI policy issues (like job displacement), and we’ve actually held our red lines with integrity rather than colluding with them to produce “safety theater” for the benefit of employees (which, I absolutely swear to you, is what literally everyone at DoW, Palantir, our political consultants, etc, assumed was the problem we were trying to solve)."
  • He called how OpenAI has messaged the clash as "mendacious" and "an example of who they really are, and I want to make sure [everyone] sees it for what it is."
  • He went after OpenAI's safeguards calling them mostly safety theatre and "mostly do not work" adding "false that OpenAI’s terms meaningfully protect them against domestic mass surveillance and fully autonomous weapons."
  • Finally he wraps it up with "Near the end of the negotiation the DoW offered to accept our current terms if we deleted a specific phrase about 'analysis of bulk acquired data,' which was the single line in the contract that exactly matched this scenario we were most worried about. A lot of OpenAI and DoW messaging just straight up lies about these issues or tries to confuse them."

Pick really any of the points and you can easily see how this would be problematic for the Admin to reverse course anytime soon or Anthropic to change its mind. The last point though is one that I think shows a critical flaw in what Anthropic wanted to be able to do.

DoW offered to accept our current terms if we deleted a specific phrase about 'analysis of bulk acquired data,'

What this means at least on the government side is something that is just never going to happen. Anthropic wanted to be able to look through the data that was collected, given to it, etc. by the DoW. Remember this was on classified networks as well and essentially Anthropic was asking to open up classified networks and the data in them to more people and that would be irresponsible for the U.S. Government to do. As soon as something critical to safety leaked people would be see self inflicted vulnerabilities like this and be appalled.

When the House was looking to officially partner and allow for Members and Staff to use ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, etc. My friend who was the lead in developing the firewalls to protect House data and sensitive data was locked in a battle for over a year with these companies over the House's data. Initially all of them wanted access to everything, the inputs the outputs, just everything and that alone was a huge no go. It was only later on that OpenAI agreed to let a firewall be put around their products to allow us to be able to go to ChatGPT and others ended up following.

One company did not come to an agreement and that is the company we are talking about right now. Anthropic wanted access to all the data and wanted to be able to use it to train. Obviously that was not something the House could agree to and so Claude is not available to the House. I have been bringing in my own personal computer for over a year just to be able to use it for researching topic and searching for legislation.

Anthropic's CEO might have bit off more than he can chew with this one and shareholders could easily come pounding down his door. Given the companies seemly uncompromising stance of access to all data that is used on its products the enterprise value, which Anthropic has been an early mover on, is going to end up crushed. There is no reason for a company to trust Anthropic with proprietary information. The quickest way I see this getting resolved is with Dario Amodei being forced out. I agree with him in a perfect world what Anthropic wants would be possible but this is not a perfect world and when you want to be a go to top tier company you have to realize this and not live in a fantasy world.

89 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 4h
There is no reason for a company to trust Anthropic with proprietary information.

200% agree. I'd add: or OpenAI, or xAI, or Google, or Nvidia, or anyone. I therefore strongly suggest that if a company, government agency, sovereign individual or other kitty is serious about using modern AI technology on proprietary information, to at the very least hear out @bitcoinplebdev's vision and spend some evenings following the free course: #1447792. Oh and make sure to zap the dude, he's awesome.

I know that it can work because I just last month saved a client (and since they're subsidized, indirectly taxpayers or the brrrinter) around $200k in costs otherwise spent on a never delivering Deloitte consulting project, by simply setting up a bespoke and 100% private data pipeline and using precise tooling wrapping local LLMs. Sorry, not sorry, Deloitte, and you're welcome, tax slaves of the world.

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116 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 OP 2h

Oh a billion percent agree! I mean with the House we were not able to use any of the AI's on our devices until the companies dropped the data harvesting requirement. Only then did the House tech team go in and built a firewall that was House developed and designed and not some off the shelf solution or something that the companies "provided."

I will look into him and the courses. This whole situation is just so wild to me since as more and more comes out the worse and worse it looks for Anthropic. Those investors aren't going to let someone destroy billions like this. There is going to be a reaction.

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29 sats \ 3 replies \ @Signal312 3h

Maybe Anthropic's CEO is just an ethical guy, who doesn't want his tools to willy-nilly be used for all kinds of murderous, illegal wars.

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16 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1h

Its all fake but I just heard a news report where he was said to state the issue wasn't that they don't want their app used in war. But rather that it wasn't ready for that use. Which makes way more sense.

I think all these guys are scum so it doesn't matter to me but that framing makes a lot more sense.

Imagine Microsoft pulling their products because the US government uses it to do evil stuff. Give me a break.

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16 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 OP 2h

Like I mentioned you have to be in real life not in hypothetical what we all wish. Your doing business with the defense industry and you took billions from investors so your not going to be that ethical.

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It's really hard to juxtapose this narrative of secrecy and data security that is apparently so important to the Trump led DoD when he personally and illegally kept massive amounts of classified documents in an unlocked storage closet at his personal country club. Or do we now call Mar-a-lago "The Situation Tent"? They are so serious about operational security that they wage war without the consent of Congress from a tarp thrown up at a golf course.

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16 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 OP 1h

Um first thing that pops up when reading this is well we are talking digital vs printed material and that is dramatically different.

Second dont act like this is the first time we have ever heard of a President keeping documents Biden did the same thing from when he was VP and they were just sitting in a car in his garage. Mar-a-lago isnt some run of the mill residence either I mean I remember going by it before he was even ran for President over a decade ago and the walls and security staff alone are dramatically different than documents sitting in a car that had been there for years.

Lastly pick all President literally have a "traveling Situation Room" Clinton had it for his Martha Vineyard stays same with Obama, Bush had his in Crawford, Texas, Regan his in Cali, etc. It's wild to even make comments like "wage war without the consent of Congress from a tarp thrown up at a golf course" when the left and the right both know that isnt true. You need to look at how the War Powers work the timelines and the criteria. Right now he's fine. Troops involved were already at those bases, Israel was the one who struck first and Iran said very publicly that it was going to strike the US assets if Israel did anything to it. Lets not forget what the Supreme Leader said during the discussions on Feb. 17th.

The Americans constantly say that they’ve sent a warship toward Iran. Of course, a warship is a dangerous piece of military hardware. However, more dangerous than that warship is the weapon that can send that warship to the bottom of the sea.
-- Supreme Leader Khamenei
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Fair points, but I'd split hairs that Trump lied about the documents to cover it up. He'd be in prison right now but for his reelection.

I keep thinking back to your previous post about how this Anthropic thing was the US government being "bullied' by Anthropic when all it really wanted was to use the AI software for "lawful" operations. Those goal posts, they do keep on a-shiftin'.

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16 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1h

This is all theater even if the dude from Anthropic is sincere. There is no AI safety. There is only theater.

The only safety is with the humans that use AI. As with most things. No one will save you. You must take responsibility for your self.

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16 sats \ 0 replies \ @freetx 4h
"The real reasons DoW and the Trump admin do not like us is that we haven’t donated to Trump (while OpenAI/Greg have donated a lot),"

"We haven’t given dictator-style praise to Trump (while Sam has)."

I can completely see those things being true, given Trumps ego. However this is the playpen you choose to play in!

When you are trying to get your company on the crony capitalist gravy train, you need to kiss ass and fluff the egos of those who decide your contracts.

I wouldn't be totally surprised if Amodei gets replaced by shareholders. This entire saga comes across as someone who is smart+stupid in understanding the market they are trying to play in.

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