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Imagine being such a retarded edgelord that, instead of calling out Putin, you blame me lol.

By all means, keep sucking the russian propaganda. Maidan kicked off because the Ukrainian president was a piece of corrupt shit who broke his promise to the people, and it led to protests. I'm sure the CIA was stirring the pot, but it's the exact same thing Russia does.

Of course, after Maidan, Putin shit himself because his dictator mate was deposed, so he cracked down in Russia even harder and then took advantage and annexed Crimea (despite him saying for years he wasn't interested in Crimea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1__EPqhMrFQ )

then cherry on top, Putin funded the separatists in Donbas that started the whole 8 year mess - how else would a bunch of goon separatists fight the Ukrainian army for all those years? Where were the weapons coming from? Igor Girkin himself has said they were sent in and “pulled the trigger of the war” in the region https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aM5tI9TIaeQ.

And I speak Russian and have listened to this for myself from Russian sources.

So, I beg to differ that my attitude is killing Ukrainian men; you would prefer to think that, though, calling everyone dumb sheep because you think you have some wizard insight and you see the 'truth.'

And finally, I don't believe in good or bad, I despise most politicians, and I don't think the cia are any better, really, than their russian counterparts.

What is fairly obvious, despite 4 years of Russian gaslighting, is that Putin is 100% responsibe for all of this and that he is solely to blame for the whole thing. I don't think he wanted a war, he just wanted to do what Trump did to Maduro but he was too fucking shit to get the job done, and the subsequent deaths, Russian Ukrainian, are the result of an old man's ego not being able to back down.

“Calling out Putin” nuclear armed country leaders gets “called out” by retard on internet?

You live in fantasy child world. All these arguments you make are about how “Russia bad” “Ukraine good” -as if “Justice” matters.

What matters is the LIFE of Ukrainians.

Which they are losing more and more every day due to this ridiculous “Justice” you want them to keep fighting for. The longer they fight the worse their situation gets.

But you bloodthirsty psycho roots them on to their deaths and to the delight of the MIC!

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What matters is the LIFE of Ukrainians.

Occupation is not peace. Everywhere Russia has occupied, they've raped and murdered a significant percentage of the population. Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom because they know that occupation by Russia results in atrocities.

For example, Russia is actively starving an entire town to death, Oleshky, by blockading shipments of food and preventing people from leaving.

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The longer you keep the fighting going the more people will die.

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They'll just deny it and find another way to blame someone else for it, it;s like there is a certain type of person that literally cannot blame Putin for things, it's somehow always someone else fault

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I’m trying to understand how if it’s Putin fault changes anything?

How does that change anything in my argument? The anti-war strategy is to stop fighting, agree to peace, and subvert the state non-violently.

The reason you support the war is because you care about governments, not the people who actually live there.

War is the lifeblood of the State.

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And I CAN blame YOU and others. Without American support, the war would have been settled very early. The weapons and money you supported sending especially in the first year, is what cost the lives of hundreds of thousands.

What is your goal? To have Justice done by a certain State ruling over certain land?

If you are anything like a bitcoiner, your goal should be to get the violence to stop as soon as possible so the people can start to heal

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