Dude, they're fucking people, regardless of what twitter posts, podcasts, and other NgU desperation has said to the contrary. You don't get justice with injustice. What you've proffered are not arguments, they're talking points.
I agree with this "You don't get justice with injustice" I don't live in El Salvador but this a great thread about people there who are okay with this because they have lost so many to gang violence https://twitter.com/alexstanczyk/status/1629323046401241088?s=20 now that said I think due process is important and people should be innocent until proven guilty. My point with this post is in the USA the people who are in jail for 1/6 haven't had due process either. Now I have no opinion about wether or not 1/6 was a violent insurrection or some psy-op put on by the feds. My guess: probably somewhere in the middle. My point: not having due process in both the US and El Salvador is kinda fucked up and Bukele makes a good point here because at least from what I saw in that one thread which is not much more than anecdotal evidence is that the people of El Salvador appreciate these gang members being locked up.
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100 sats for you. Good to see a critical thinker.
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u either believe in due-process or u don't. if ur gonna justify it here, then justify it everywhere. tryna have it two ways is dishonest. mallardshead is right. just say depriving people of rights is fine in this case for whatever good reasons and push on
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So you don't believe in Democracy?
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due-process is actually a cornerstone of democratic governance no?
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LOL Democratic Governance.. Why are you changing the subject.. Democracy.. is not "democratic governance" lmao.. Why are you trying to compare 2 different things? hummm lets see.. Websters - Democracy = "a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation, usually involving periodically held free elections".... I see nothing about "democratic governance, or stuff about laws, rights, judiciary........ funny, this sounds like what the people of El Salvador just did... Guess you guys hate Democracy
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"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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He doesn't understand all that stuff. He doesn't realize democracy is a complex political system that requires more than just periodic elections. It also involves the protection of individual rights, the rule of law, an independent judiciary, a free and independent press, and mechanisms for holding elected officials accountable to the people.
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LMAO excuses.. No it doesn't.. It's why the USA is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. You are adding stuff to "Democracy" to try and prove a point. LMAO. "Democracy" has absolutely nothing to do with any of what you said, except the choice of the majority. That's just the made up definition you told yourself in your own head. Like I said. You think you are smart, but it's the opposite. Just because you tell yourself something doesn't make it so.. LMAO
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Thanks for telling everyone your low IQ
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Yes, and my original reply above was pointing out that Bukele's tweet is nothing more than a rhetorical tactic, which is in this case a logical fallacy admitting he's doing the same thing as the U.S. has, which—as you pointed out—is problematic. Bukele is a high risk/reward dude, and his crackdown and bitcoin experiment can all change if the economy doesn't change, and the political leadership does.
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Thank you for proving my point you are not as smart as you think you are. You should step back into the real world and away from the theoretical shit you come up with in your head with no real world experience. Have you ever lived in a country thats being controlled by a gang and have to worry if tomorrow your family will be killed, or pay those gangs just to survive?? Didn't think so, so shut the fuck up..
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"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safey."
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Cause you know.. You sure can pursue life, liberty, and freedom when a gang is holding you hostage.
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What liberty did they give up?
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The one that talks about no state depriving any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law? In the US it's the 4th and 14th amendments. In El Salvador I believe it's the judicial protection clause under their own constitution ratified in the 80s
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So the corrupt government before him that was helping the gangs doesn't count I guess?
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Cause you know.. You sure can pursue life, liberty, and freedom when a gang is holding you hostage.
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Another low-rez reply. They're getting more desperate, now trying to appeal to emotions. There's no argument being made here, just an appeal to the plight of Salvadorians who you don't care about anymore than they serve the purpose of establishing a faux moral high-ground, which you comically fail at because you forgot first-principles of liberty.
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