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PS: I think crapping on nvk is popular on SN, because of emotional reasons.

I've seen you say this a few times. Do you know where you got that impression?

People crap on many people here (as they do elsewhere), but it sounds like stackers may have a special hate-boner for NVK. The best I can recall is the thread where he was talking trash about SN and folks talked trash back.

my buddy claims to have been defrauded by nvk. I tell him to take his licks and move on.

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I do think that it started since the trash talking. Since then, I felt that there's a lot of negative sentiment towards the personality, and that that reflects on how what gets said, even when not only perfectly valid, but standard, gets pulled into doubt. The danger in it is that good security practices can get replaced with mediocre ones - like anti-education. It doesn't help that nvk isn't a broadly liked or easy to interact with figure, of course, but I feel we must take care to separate the merit of the message with the likability of the messenger.

Maybe I am confirming my own bias and I am seeing sentiment that isn't there, though? Always possible. I'll take some time this weekend to go over it and re-assess.

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