Last year, at TABconf, Car & Keyan asked me what I do all day.
With total honesty, I told them I spend much of my time hanging out a bar near me. For some reason, they found this amusing, like I'm wasting my life drowning in drinks.
Well, that problem won't plague me much longer, because the bar is on its last legs. I found out recently that the owner "Craig" is two months behind on paying the landlord, and the doors will likely be locked this coming Monday. It's the end of an era.
The Bar
I initially started hanging out at the bar in mid-2023, a few months after its opening. The reasons were primarily out of convenience; it was near home, had comfortable furniture to lounge (sofas and cushioned chairs) and do work (upright seating), large windows allowing the sun to shine through, and great wifi that made it convenient to work away from home. As I spent more and more time there, I got to know the staff and roughly three dozen other regulars that used it as a pseudo workplace and home away from home. If you wanted to see "the crew," that was the default place you'd go. For close to three years, if I wasn't at home or the gym, the bar was the most likely place you'd find me and many others.
The glue of the bar was "Colby." The founding manager, he designed and built the space for Craig (who lives >100 miles away and I've seen maybe twice), running operations, finance, deliveries, hiring and maintenance. Although the staff had turnover, as is typical for any kind of service establishment, Colby and a handful of long-serving bartenders were consistent faces. Everything ran like clockwork, until ~6 months ago, when Colby finally moved on to a higher paying job opportunity. The glue was gone, so to speak, and it seemed like operations slowly began to fall apart without an experienced manager in charge. Staff would mention that they were late in getting their paychecks, certain drinks would be out of stock, and so on. Several other members of the team headed for the exits and regular customers started fading away. I knew the place was hanging on, but I didn't know the severity of the situation until one of the last remaining long-serving bartenders showed me the late rent statement, along with threat of legal action, two days ago.
Schelling Points and Third Spaces
Discussing the situation the other night, someone suggested we all start hanging out at a similar bar about 5 minutes away. I immediately knew this wouldn't work because of the difficult shifting the Schelling Point (a term bitcoiners might be familiar with). The value of the bar isn't purely drinks and decor, it's the knowledge that, if I show up at this place, there's likely 10-15 people I know hanging out there. The conversation, familiar faces, spontaneous interactions cannot be easily replicated at a new location. Everyone is making the same rough calculation, "I'll go there because everyone else will probably go." Now that the bar is closing, while some might choose hangout spot A, others will switch to B or C or D. There's no effective coordination mechanism to get everyone to choose the same option. Just like money or languages or communication protocols, hangout spots have something of a network effect to them.
In popular discourse, there has been much lamenting about the decline of third spaces. Many reasons have been given for this- rising rent costs, economic stress, social isolation- but I think one of the understated factors is that we all have phases of our lives, and periodically move onto the next thing. We move for school, for jobs, for relationships. Few live in their hometowns well into adulthood. Every aspect of life is more transient. The hometown pub that you and your friends hung out at from youth well into old age doesn't really exist anymore.
I don't know if I'll go look for a new bar. Maybe I'll take this opportunity to travel further and sample many different locations, instead of being loyal to one spot (although you don't get the benefits of community, in this case). Or maybe I'll be more productive and get work done at home, without the distractions of laughter and friendship. Only time will tell.
So Sad How do I help them i visited them before but now i cant go to them how i do i help digitally
Reading this made me think about a couple of places I've spent a lot of time in. You never really notice how much they become part of your life until they're gone...
I like a bar with an outdoor setting as we are always confine in office and house spaces so going to the bar is an activity that makes you become part of nature as you watch people goings and comings. This to me is therapeutic!
Too bad you wouldn't get to feel it again.
Dam toms diner song will have no meaning now
Touching tribute. I’m sorry for your loss
ya sorry to hear about your loss Vake, also sorry for that comment at you in tabconf, in all honesty i didnt believe you when you said that, your humor reminds me of will ferrel very dry, also when you say stay in lane in comments i also dont believe you as i consider that a joke too
Haha nobody died, it's just the end of an era and now a new one starts. I'm a little too sentimental though.
ya i will start taking you more seriously, i always say support your local businesses as much as you can, if you appreciate the service they provide for the community you live in
I used to travel to UK regularly for about 20 years and thus got very familiar with "pub culture".
Typically in UK houses were generally on the smaller side, often without any proper "living room". Thus the tradition was born to dedicate one of the houses on the street as the "public house" (thats where pub comes from), so that people could have a place to socialize, talk, drink, play darts, etc.
I mention this because prior to going to UK I pretty much mentally equated "pub = bar" and sure there are overlaps, but pubs are much more "living room hangout with beer" as opposed to a US bar which are more focused on drinking than anything else. One thing you will notice is that pubs often have peoples kids / dogs in them.
Unless you live in a city in the US, there is almost no chance that this model could catch on....as it makes no sense to drive to one (defeats the whole purpose). The absolute ideal pub / neighborhood bar needs to be walking distance otherwise the entire mood of the place is wrong.
Sad to hear they couldn’t make rent. This issue is happening near me as well. While I don’t hang at bars all day like you I have noticed a lot of my favorite food establishments have been closing. All due to the same reason the lease got too expensive.
These rent costs are outrageous, I'm surprised many small businesses are able to stay alive.
This is very sad! It sounded like you had a pretty cool thing going for a while, and I guess it's good at least that you got to enjoy it for a while.
Are such places declining in general? probably. The internet makes it easy to find something to do from the comfort of your home. I suspect many such places existed because staying home was boring.
I hope you find a new place. I think it will be worth the effort.
(also, Schelling Point would be a cool name for a bar)
I don't think I'll invest as much in a new third space. Will probably do more work from home, and explore a variety of outside places instead of committing to one. This bar worked well because the location was perfect, and every other place (at least currently) is a 5+ minute drive away.
you should write more, more, more
I wish I had more interesting stuff to say!
me too brother
that first pic -
Losing a solid third space sucks. Once that local network effect breaks, it's rarely the same at a new spot. Enjoy the last days there man.
There's something bittersweet about reading this. It starts as a story about a local bar, but it's really about how communities form and how fragile they can be. It's amazing how much one person, one place, or even one routine can hold everything together without anyone realizing it. Wishing you and the rest of the regulars find another place where those conversations can continue..