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313 sats \ 11 replies \ @SwapMarket 3 Aug \ parent \ on: Boltz and ZeusLSP temporarily shut down swap services bitcoin lightning

All the Boltz backends run the same FOSS code and are attacked with the same AI exploits. Once Boltz guys stop sending hot patches, it becomes crazy dangerous to run them.

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174 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet OP 3 Aug

Yes, Evan is being entirely rational here.

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20 sats \ 9 replies \ @tomlaies 3 Aug

So theoretically we could see a world with lots and lots of smaller swap services instead?

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15 sats \ 5 replies \ @Aeneas 3 Aug

Yes, there could be many smaller, SwapMarket-esque protocols to distribute swaps further out. No one has really tried yet to Death Star nuke our ability to move in and out of LN to do this, but 2026 has been really good about incentivizing

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24 sats \ 4 replies \ @SwapMarket 3 Aug

Look at peerswap guys.

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47 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 3 Aug
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3 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet OP 3 Aug -420 sats

Been digging into it a day, given the scope of changes it needs I wouldn't trust it in production right away.

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Will have to investigate Electrum Swaps as well, as @super_testnet pointed out.

Path of least resistance for production readiness may simply be LOOP however.

105 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet OP 3 Aug -420 sats

That's one mitigation, such that a zero-day isn't catastrophic. These things are all hot wallets, it makes my skin crawl even at how much people put in Lightning itself.

This may also mean more swap services that are not atomic/trustless, where the maker has time to do extra sanity checks or rate limits.