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Being a well regarded bip110 knotzi, ofc I run an economically insignificant node, as any bitcoin beginner would, yet Im amazed at how many bip110 public figures are talking about a possible PoW hard fork, if bip110 fails to become part of consensus.

However, it brings me great pain to say, for all my other bip110 node runners: hard forks leading to new coins are not an option, in any case, that can lead to that new coin replacing fiat & becoming new global monetary standard.

Emergency hard forks have happened in bitcoin history (that didnt lead to lasting chain splits with new coins)...however they were done to quickly & concisely resolve clear & present bugs. Bugs, in this context, being those flaws that both coretards & knotzis would consider critical. Bugs affecting consensus that virtually all bitcoiners would agree need solving in 1 way for 1 outcome, where there would not be any disagreement on fixing them based on ideology.

Likewise, historical hard forks (based on ideology) that lead to new coins (& thus different chains), have clearly not delivered on their own promise(s) of being Bitcoin 2.0. We can see this not only on their ticker/chart (over at least several years) via exchanges, but also at the grassroots adoption level, where they also fail hard on medium of exchange & nearly non-existent as a unit of account.

So Im writing all this to say...if bip110 clearly fails to become part of consensus (to me meaning at 110 blocks post activation height it is not the longest chain), then I wont be falling back to running a core node, nor will I be a part of a hard fork movement. That will just be the end of it: my journey with bitcoin. Many OG bitcoiners have opined for years about how we only have 1 shot at bitcoin replacing fiat. This uasf, & many possible more that work to support bitcoin as money (as the only designated use case), have to all succeed, at every step along the way, or else it will not reach its full potential & become decentralized money for all. It can become many other things instead (some wonderful, some not), but money it will not.

Any outcome that is not money, is not why I am here. I am not here for store of value. I am not here for digital gold. I am here for hope. I am here for fix the money, fix the world. If the collective decides Bitcoin is not here for all that, I must go elsewhere to see what kind of v4v impact I can offer to the world.

There is a quote I like to say to myself, during times of intensity, that I hope & pray will stay with me for as long as Im here in this world:
Courage under fire
Grace in victory
Alchemy in defeat

Tonight, on the eve of this culture war, I make peace with all possible outcomes. Whoever you are, whatever you do...I hope you find what you're looking for.

Thank you,
4sigma

2849 sats \ 1 reply \ @Murch 8 Aug

I can’t help but feel that you are interpreting this situation unnecessarily fatalistic. In contrast to frequent talking points among BIP 110 supporters, essentially all Bitcoiners believe Bitcoin is for money. I firmly believe that Bitcoin will continue on that journey after BIP 110 fails to garner significant interest tomorrow.

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Thank you for your honesty. I leave you, & the other victors, with 1 last quote that came to mind today. You may not find value in it now, however you might 1 day:
"Remember, howsoever you are played, or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone. Even those who presume to play you be kings, or men of power. When you stand before God, you cannot say: But I was told by others to do thus; or that virtue was not convenient, at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that."

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2148 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 21h

You sound like a pretty thoughtful and reasonable person. I'll be sad to see you go if things turn out such that BIP110 chain is not the heaviest.

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Thank you. Now that the legacy chain is at 21+ blocks beyond, it is time to take my leave. Im grateful to have met you & some other Bitcoiners along my journey here. I appreciate your willingness to seek out, hear out, & respect other Bitcoiner opinions in this space, especially during a culture/ideology war, & I know very well how hard that can be to carry that torch. All the best for you & yours.

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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 22h

What if subconsciously you wanted to quit bitcoin and this is your elaborate excuse.

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447 sats \ 0 replies \ @nout 23h

The specific conflict here is quite insignificant in the bigger bitcoin picture. I know that at this point it may feel like the ultimate "war" of good versus evil, but the result is largely inconsequential. No matter which side "wins", the very big majority of things won't change at all - hardware wallets, software, lightning, protocol dev, apps, mining etc. Someone can do new node implementation a month from now that sets different defaults and the community can start using it.

So maybe take a bit of time to rest, and with this time and perspective I think you will gain more useful insight here.

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22 sats \ 2 replies \ @unboiled 20h
Alchemy in defeat

Why choose sulking then?

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22 sats \ 1 reply \ @4sigma OP 11h

Its not sulking, its grief for those outcomes which I dont prefer. Grief is natural part of shadow work process.

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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @unboiled 4h

I see. Might end up being a really good precursor to alchemy.

Best of luck. And may you too find what you are looking for.

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then I wont be falling back to running a core node,

You can reduce -datacarriersize if you don’t want to store OP_RETURN spam. Or run some other implementation. Not worth it to make this a consensus issue.

how we only have 1 shot at bitcoin replacing fiat.

Then let’s give consensus the respect it deserves, and accommodate different mempool policies.

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 22h

Last time I checked Bitcoin is still money. I think it would be hilarious if the economic nodes tell the "muh bitcoins is money" crowd to pound sand.

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