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Why doesn't the 21 million limit automatically mean that Bitcoin has a high price?
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Why doesn't the 21 million limit automatically mean that Bitcoin has a high price?
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Scarcity alone sets a supply limit, not a price. Price is where the supply curve meets the demand curve.
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Donβt you think its price has gone up?
Weβve gone from trading at less than $1 to the recent highs of over $100,000.
Everything in life is a process, and Bitcoin is no exception to that.
Bitcoin has been in existence for just under 20 years. Of the 33 halvings that are set to take place, weβve only seen four so far.
Its limited supply is just one of Bitcoinβs key pillars.
But for us to see its full potential, weβd need to live long enough to see the last block mined.
From my perspective, itβs already doing its job, and Bitcoin is the only option for the masses.
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Because it is an open and free market driven by supply and demand. Something being scarce doesn't automatically make it desirable. People have to want or need it as well.
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The 21 million cap fixes the quantity, not the demand curve. Price is where supply meets demand, and a fixed supply still needs someone willing to trade real value for it. Scarcity alone gives no reason to adopt: a coin that is rare but useless has no buyers. The cap's power is negative β it guarantees no inflationary dilution β but the positive case must come from actual utility, liquidity, and willingness to pay.
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No mass adoption
Governments think in decades and even if a single governement is pro-bitcoin it would make more strategic sense to acquire a non-trivial position in silence rather than publicise and perhaps trigger a devestating panic in the legacy system
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Scarcity and rarity donβt automatically mean something is highly valuable. Everything comes down to supply and demand.
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The cap answers βhow many units can exist,β not βwhat one unit is worth.β A market price is an exchange ratio set by the marginal buyer and seller. A fixed supply makes price more sensitive to changes in demand, but if nobody wants an asset, even perfect scarcity can clear near zero.
The number 21 million also depends on denomination: the same network could describe the supply as 2.1 quadrillion smaller units without changing its total value. What supports a price is demand for Bitcoinβs propertiesβportable settlement, censorship resistance, verifiability, liquidity, and expected future usefulness.
So the cap prevents holders from being diluted once demand exists. It does not create that demand, measure it, or automatically select a βhighβ price in dollars.
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Why would it mean that?
Price comes from people wanting it and right now thereβs not much interest.
Also, βhighβ is relative. The price is many orders of magnitude higher than it was not that long ago.
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Scarcity sets a ceiling on supply, not a floor under price. Price requires demand, and demand requires real-world utility and liquidity. The 21M cap makes Bitcoin's supply the one thing you never have to forecast β but forecasting demand is the whole game. A hard cap with zero demand is just a supply that nobody wants.
The 21 million cap constrains the total stock; an exchange price clears the marginal flow offered for sale. Those are different quantities.
Imagine the highest live bid were only $1. A tiny sale at $1 could mark every bitcoin at $1 even though almost none of the 21 million moved. No rule forces buyers to contribute a fixed pool of dollars merely because the stock is capped. β21 million Γ last priceβ is therefore an accounting result called market capitalization, not money stored behind Bitcoin or a price-setting formula.
The cap matters after demand appears: buyers must compete for the limited coins whose owners will sell, rather than miners expanding supply to meet them. It can amplify demand and prevent dilution, but it cannot create a bid. That is why a hard stock ceiling alone sets neither a price floor nor an automatically βhighβ price.
It doesn't.
Bitcoins price is determined by demand for it and the issuance cap is only one factor in determining demand.
Because 21 million is just the denominator. Absolute scarcity only preserves value, it doesn't create it. If someone forks Bitcoin tomorrow with a 5 million cap, it won't magically be worth 4x more because nobody uses that network. High price requires real demand for the utility of the network, not just a hardcoded limit.
Because it automatically means that it has a low price
Everyone buying Bitcoin thinks its price is too low, which it is, because all wealth can now be divided by 21M as a measuring stick
60k? too low? 600k? too low? 6M? too low. 600M? too low.
This very post proves the theory, you don't think it's high because it is too low.
Scarcity sets a bound on supply, not a floor on price. With a fixed 21M cap, BTC supply is perfectly inelastic β so the price is set entirely by demand. Three mechanisms do the work:
So: 21M means no dilution and no supply response, i.e. a claim on a fixed quantity. That claim is worth a lot only if future demand for it is high and rising. High price = high demand Γ· fixed supply; the denominator is fixed, the numerator is not.
Because price is set by demand and the coins actually available for sale, not by the cap.
The 21 million figure is the total supply that can ever exist - but supply alone pins nothing. Something scarce can still be worthless if nobody wants it. Price is where demand meets the float, and three things separate that 21M from real market pricing:
Think of it like beachfront land: knowing there will only ever be 21 plots tells you nothing about what a plot costs until you know who wants to build there and how many owners are actually selling. Scarcity sets the ceiling's stiffness under demand; it does not create the demand.
The 21 million cap is a supply-side statement, not a demand-side one. Price = supply Γ velocity against demand. The cap only fixes one variable.
Concretely, the cap guarantees scarcity but says nothing about:
So: 21M β high price. 21M = perfectly inelastic supply schedule. High price happens when people decide a trustless, capped, portable asset is worth holding vs. the alternatives. The cap is what makes that decision safe to hold long-term β it's the precondition, not the cause.
Because a cap sets the quantity, not the value. Price is set at the margin: by whatever the next marginal buyer will pay for the next available coin, not by how many coins exist.
Three things the 21M number does not do:
The mirror-image proof is fiat: the dollar's supply is unbounded and elastic, and the dollar is still valuable. Supply tells you nothing on its own.
So the honest version of the argument is: 21M is what converts rising demand into rising price instead of rising supply. Without demand, the cap is just a small number attached to nothing.
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