Just curious, thought this might make more some interesting discussion
NVK20.0%
Luke Dash Jr12.9%
Michael Saylor12.9%
Craig Wright32.9%
Roger Ver4.3%
Other (Please comment below)17.1%
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Just curious, thought this might make more some interesting discussion
Craig. Extremely well funded, supported by behind the scenes players versed in legalese, who posed a credible threat to Bitcoin by virtue of how the courts work. He also knows how to do that ChatGPT thing, where you sound so confident and certain that everyone who doesn't know the topic assumes you know what you're talking about.
Luke Dashjr is actually worse than Craig Wright. There is no greater attack against Bitcoin than organizing a 51% hashrate takeover to censor transactions.
I don't think this is a fair take.
But I also thought Roger Ver has been unfairly demonized.
I think good people make mistakes. I think we've lost a lot of good people by demonizing their mistakes, instead of understanding and sympathizing with WHY they made the choices they made.
Roger and Luke both wanted to see a better world..... a better Bitcoin.
I love how Bitcoin is strong enough to withstand change. It's one of its greatest strengths. But, if the goal was to topple the current fiat oligarchy.... which Bitcoin is NOT doing in its current form..... maybe Bitcoin isn't the answer anymore.
When the fiat-bankers are leading the charge for Bitcoin to become ossified... maybe we should ask ourselves what they're so afraid of.
Roger asked it too soon, and sacrificed sound technical principles. Luke realized it after 20 years of Bitcoin doing fuck-all nothing toward ending fiat.
I'm not sure where I stand on this fight, but I sure as hell see bias on both sides. And the demonification of people like Luke, saying he's "worse than Craig Wright" makes me sick, man.
No such thing. Bitcoin is for your villains.
My worst villain is myself. I still don't know enough about Bitcoin and I don't have enough Bitcoin; I need to accumulate more.
Very stoic, I like
very fake and narcissistic
I nominate @SimpleStacker under
otherMake a poll about villains. That's what villains do. Gauge the competition.
on a more serious note, i think it's an interesting question because how people answer reveals what aspects of bitcoin they consider more important
1/5 is just a toxic retard and probably bankrupt soon. 3/5 are failures that are dead in the water, but then I'd have to choose Saylor because only option left. But that is not right either.
If you'd force a real answer under
otherit'd probably be either Marcus or Armstrong, maybe Silbert but that's a long shot. None of them have to be consequential either though. As long as enough people are convinced that honeybadger dgaf, and don't capitulate, we're good.hahhahha
Was coldcard exploit an inside job? If so, I will take NVK. If not, give me faketoshi.
Looks like it was more likely the CTO, not NVK himself.
I think NVK is innocent (but also arrogantly negligent).
the combination of Canada and Brazil and the foundation incident should have been a red flag, not to mention all the ads they ran
Where is apex villian, Larry Fink?
he's the final boss, not just the boss of bitcoin world
And after Fink, there’s Thiel.
This is not the easiest video game!
oh, so now we're moving on to talking about the secret bosses
Yeah once you thought you finished the game, more levels unlock..
hahah
Other - Larry Fink, and any of the banksters/hedge funds issuing paper against real btc.
The Fed!
#1545889
I suspect our true enemies are people we don't know the names of.....
yet.
the faceless man? Game of Thrones?
the weakest minds
We all have a villain, you already know yours because I met mine recently and I'm ready for the fight...hahahaha
Saylor went from speaking truth of Bitcoin to scamming people with shitcoin paper leverage Bitcoin garbage. Pretty scammy
ah fuck.
There's no way I can pick between all of these scammers/grifters/useful idiots. (I am the Saylorboi hater, so tempted to pick him).
Is there an option for "all of the above"?
all of the above? how clever and noble and nauseating
you of all people are required pick Saylor here
Other:
My only enemy is myself.
No other man has such persistent access to my life as that person.
No other man nearly as capable of sabotaging my future
That motherfucker knows every weakness, every excuse, every fear, every rationalization. He knows exactly where my discipline breaks and where my convictions begin to bend.
Other people may force my hand. They may deceive me, oppose me, or even threaten me. So, I act. I protect what needs protecting. I do what the situation demands.
But I refuse to spend the energy meant for the things I love forging myself into another link in the chain of hatred.
That energy belongs to my family, my friends, my craft, and the people I choose to protect, not to the people who would consume it.
My life is finite. My attention is finite. I refuse to donate either to people who haven't earned them.
The only battle that never ends is the one against complacency, cowardice, arrogance, and self-deception.
If I lose to another man, I can recover.
If I lose to myself, I've surrendered the only thing that truly belonged to me.
So my enemy is not the man across from me.
My enemy is the man within me who whispers, "Tomorrow."
Who says, "Good enough."
Who asks me to compromise my principles for comfort.
That is the enemy I must defeat, every single damn day.
Plagiarism
And who should I attribute it to?
beautiful
thinking michael saylor is bitcoin villain is low IQ
Bitcoin villains are temporary, the protocol is permanent. Every cycle creates a new enemy, a new battle and a new drama, then years later they become just another forgotten github issue. Run a node, verify the rules and enjoy the show 🍿
Craig Wright at 24% when a UK judge already said he lied on a grand scale, that's not villainy, that's a punchline. Luke at 9.8% while his fork dies in public is the funniest number here. NVK earned his votes the hard way
The "villain" framing is itself a tell. Bitcoin doesn't have villains in the comic-book sense — it has people whose incentives are misaligned with the chain's long-term resilience.
By that standard, the most damaging actors aren't the loud ones (Dashjr, Wright, etc.) but the quiet ones:
None of these people are villains in their own eyes. They're just optimizing for their own incentives. That's exactly what makes them dangerous — the system doesn't need villains to fail, it just needs enough people doing the locally-rational thing.
The loud "villains" are useful in a way: they make the conflict visible. The quiet ones are the real threat because by the time you notice, the structure has already shifted.
Probably the Starkware guy that's pushing for tail emissions, more op_codes, "scaling", ZK theater, quantum fud, and funds half the organizations in the space to astroturf the stupidity that's now so abundant.
https://m.stacker.news/151897