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164 sats \ 14 replies \ @franzap 20 Mar 2023 \ parent \ on: Nostrica Discussion Thread nostr
This resonates with me, on the other hand I think there was an online event as well
"online event" is a generous term for "streamed on youtube" unless there's something major I missed somehow.
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Right. So right now if you look on Nostr you see plenty of pictures of people slicing coconuts and hanging out on tropical beaches. The thing is, due to economics (and not free market ones either) not everyone can go do that. It's a hard sell if you are saying "this technology is gonna make things better for humanity" and then you go off to paradise and send everyone else pictures of what they missed while offering an "online event". It ought to be the case that it is a sort of "one for all and all for one thing" or forget it. Regular money all ready did all this.
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There are three ways to be able to get to Costa Rica. Each may or may not work depending on some amount of luck.
a) You work hard, you continuously learn new things that will move you forward, you focus your time on that goal, you spend some portion of every day on getting closer to the goal. You also exercise and try to sleep well to be as healthy as possible and to make your brain work well.
b) You demand your government takes care of you. You say that everyone deserves to go to Costa Rica. So you support whichever leader gives you that and together you choose a type of people that you fight against (e.g. choose from people living in the cities, people owning businesses, people from upper class, people of different religion...) That's all you need to do really, just sit back, watch TV and wait. By having this selected enemy the system can squeeze money. If you are close to the center of the system it's possible that the system sends you to Costa Rica to discuss open, public, censorship resistant protocol. The question is what do you do there?
c) You were born in the right setup and have easy money. Note here that for people living in the US, Costa Rica is generally a bit cheaper. So by going to Costa Rica you save some money (it sort of depends, CR is getting more expensive in the recent years - the market seems to be pushing it on the levels of Hawaii).
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It also depends where you live. It's cheaper for me to go to Costa Rica than to the US.
Let's not forget the jab. This kind of conferences should all be organized in countries that require no stupid vaccination passports. So definitely not in the USA.
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I think the jab is irrelevant in the sense that if you include it you will be dead soon enough anyway.
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a) You work hard, someone else steals your work and claims it as their own.
b) partially responsible for stealing your work.
c) Probably true for the majority of people such that a) or b) isn't happening to them.
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Stealing of your work can happen in specific classes of work, but it's not as common - it's part of the risk assessment that everyone has to do on their own. That's why I really specifically focused on learning things - skills and knowledge can't be stolen from you. So hustling and trying multiple things is a good approach even when you hit setbacks, but I fully agree that this is not easy and even if you do all this it may not result in success.
Overall, so I understand better, what do you suggest would be a better way? What did you expect to happen with Nostr and Nostrica?
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There is a balance between charity and earning--especially for humanitarian needs. Right now, I'd say the needle is set to "earning" in a less than balanced way.
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Agreed Comrade! Let's force the imperialist swines who are attending to fund all of our trips to costa rica this weekend!
Could you sound any more commie? ;)
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I'm not the one touting bitcoin as a solution to world economy woes and global banking. As a matter of fact, I didn't go to Costa Rica whereas a lot of people did go. So, if you are one of those people who says bitcoin is good for developing countries and yet you accuse those developing countries or people who can't afford to not go as being commies, fuck you. I say that very politely--and fuck everyone who gave you sats too.
Don't you or your ilk pretend you are anything else other than a new banking elite.
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You're severely barking up the wrong tree here. Yes, me and everyone else on this board beside you FIRMLY believe that the world's monetary system is broken beyond any hope of repair and Satoshi gave us the keys to fix it for everyone in an extremely fair way. He gave us a far, far, far better money that every last person on earth can have access to and start earning today if they only understand it.
As for your assumption that "you accuse those developing countries or people who can't afford to not go as being commies," you've totally lost the script here, bigtime.
YOU are accused of being a commie for suggesting a redistribution of wealth. Specifically you said: [Going to Nostrica instead of watching it online] "ought to be the case that it is a sort of "one for all and all for one thing" or forget it."
What a crazy thing to say. Putting politics aside, how could any convention ever happen again if everyone thinks like this? Sounds beyond even what Marx could hope to achieve to me. It's not like there is a hotel somewhere that can house all 8 Billion people for the weekend or something...
As for the people IN those developing countries who can't afford to go, I accuse them of nothing, and assume they are good capitalists and smarter than you by far. Nostr & bitcoin will both be there for them and replace all of their currencies and media over the next decade or two.
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I don't use a script. Big difference between you and me.
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What script? I believe that the money is literally broken and will die, followed by the pain or death of millions of innocent people. That's what reason has led me to. Education is not a script.
And damn straight there is a big difference. I want to help those people and you just want to see them perish faster by not having access to the tools they need to survive.
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The script you accuse me of losing. You do remember, right? It's right up there in your own words.
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