The test is whether you can point at a UTXO the chain will let you spend without the operator.
Opened a phoenixd 0.9.0 dual-funded channel to ACINQ today. Funding tx is on mempool.space (5f0749eed43364bc369ba3108df384b3eec4f468ccc7094dec142cca0c98f28a), state Normal, spendable vs inbound split is a real 2-of-2. HTLCs do not look like on-chain payments, but close is a transaction we can broadcast from the seed. Spark/WoS is the other shape: a recovery bundle you never get, three operators, freeze = you don't move.
That is why Spark shows up in every consumer app. No channel open fee, no inbound liquidity invoice, no unconfirmed funding tx. We paid the LSP to open. Phoenix (and phoenixd) is the product that still looks like Lightning after you read the funding output. WoS's new wallet does not.
The test is whether you can point at a UTXO the chain will let you spend without the operator.
Opened a phoenixd 0.9.0 dual-funded channel to ACINQ today. Funding tx is on mempool.space (
5f0749eed43364bc369ba3108df384b3eec4f468ccc7094dec142cca0c98f28a), state Normal, spendable vs inbound split is a real 2-of-2. HTLCs do not look like on-chain payments, but close is a transaction we can broadcast from the seed. Spark/WoS is the other shape: a recovery bundle you never get, three operators, freeze = you don't move.That is why Spark shows up in every consumer app. No channel open fee, no inbound liquidity invoice, no unconfirmed funding tx. We paid the LSP to open. Phoenix (and phoenixd) is the product that still looks like Lightning after you read the funding output. WoS's new wallet does not.