Why do they need to attach a wallet? Is a lightning address not enough in the beginning? Do they not have lightning addresses to begin with?

>But to a new user, this is not a very good experience.

That's why SN was perfectly fine before introducing all this madness with external wallets.

>SN does not allow users to spend CCs anywhere but on SN.

Perfectly fine with that.

DarthCoin

Exactly the same as with coinos or other custodial service.

This isn't quite true. If I use a custodial wallet, I can still spend sats to other wallets whenever the custodial service lets me.

SN does not allow users to spend CCs anywhere but on SN.

This is a pretty big difference, and it is one that I have personally seen turn a great number of people away.

I explain them that SN is this cool place where you pay to post and you can get zapped. They sign up and receive some sats, but when they try to withdraw they can't. So then I have to explain to them that they should have attached a wallet. And they feel that I have tricked them.

This becomes even more complicated if I try to get them to attach a wallet before they do anything else on SN. I even made a twenty slide guide to attaching a wallet and getting setup on SN. It still only resulted in them having a custodial account on CoinOS.

It feels to me like many of us are so familiar with these problems that we don't see them anymore. But to a new user, this is not a very good experience.

Fork Stacker News, remove the integrated scam

Kruw

> Exactly the same as with coinos or other custodial service.

This isn't quite true. If I use a custodial wallet, I can still spend sats to other wallets whenever the custodial service lets me. 

SN does not allow users to spend CCs anywhere but on SN. 

This is a pretty big difference, and it is one that I have personally seen turn a great number of people away. 

I explain them that SN is this cool place where you pay to post and you can get zapped. They sign up and receive some sats, but when they try to withdraw they can't. So then I have to explain to them that they should have attached a wallet. And they feel that I have tricked them. 

This becomes even more complicated if I try to get them to attach a wallet before they do anything else on SN. I even made a twenty slide guide to attaching a wallet and getting setup on SN. It still only resulted in them having a custodial account on CoinOS.

It feels to me like many of us are so familiar with these problems that we don't see them anymore. But to a new user, this is not a very good experience.