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Hey, TODAY๐Ÿซต I finished one of my surveys. Thanks to everyone for participatingโšกโšก

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Be free, accumulate โšก๐Ÿ’ฅ and don't trust anyone.

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And now we get to hear even more people saying "it's too scary to hold your own keys"

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Are we surprised that autism capital is retarded?

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I mean, it is X after all.

I don't know if there is some propagation bias or something like that, but going off of tweets that get shared outside of it sure make it seem normal to find the dumbest imaginable takes on any topic.
And even if these aren't representative of the majority on there, they sure are the ones that get spread beyond the walled garden.

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384 sats \ 1 reply \ @sox 6 Sep

Unbelievably, Autistici/Inventati closed today after 25 years of protecting freedom of speech by hosting free anonymous tools.
This comes after the U.S. government sanctioned the group accusing them of โ€œterrorismโ€ without proof, just because they provide anons tools. A really dangerous precedent imo.

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A really dangerous precedent imo.

Yes. The only way to beat this is by more protocols, less services.

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Do we know what actually happened with the liquid thing?

I've read through Scoresby's post and I still don't get it

It's a fake L2 and not a surprise I guess

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Do we know what actually happened with the liquid thing?

New answer: Yes.

  1. Validation cache bug causing an inflation bug
  2. Authorized peg-out key forwarded any sats unchecked. (= defeating authorized peg-out keys)
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Big Phil Scolari Oof!!

Such a simple flaw to exploit, once the door has been unlocked ๐Ÿ”“

The zcash had an inflation bug that was unknown because of obvious reasons, but this is more visible on liquid, albeit it's more private than on chain

So whose buckets do these 4 hunny billy sats get taken from?

Or is it able to be cancelled as the federation is a centralised entity, can they unapprove this?

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111 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 7 Sep

I think the problem here, and imho this is really nasty, is:

  1. The problem was spotted a while ago and it was fixed, but not treated as a security incident.
  2. The fix commit was sitting in a release candidate
  3. The attacker raced the release / deployment of the fix

So that is a nightmare scenario for open collaboration on FOSS, which is something we have to think about how to counter. I might make a post about it, because this is pretty bad.

Or is it able to be cancelled

No. The swap already paid on L1 in BTC.

So whose buckets do these 4 hunny billy sats get taken from?

It's 95% of all sats on Liquid - basically the backing of that entire network.

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Dayum ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฏ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฏ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฏ that is bad ๐Ÿ˜ž is Adam gonna replenish the sats lol

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No.

It sounds pretty much like a recently introduced or recently fixed consensus bug, which is why mempool's node would stop processing blocks right before the tx happened. It rejected the chain from that block onward.

Also, since the source seems to be confidential txs, it sounds very much like an inflation bug a la zcash.

"Fake L2".. I wasn't aware that they called their sidechain an L2?

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Wouldn't wiz be running an older version than blockstream itself?

If so, I think that leans more toward recently introduced than recently fixed?

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I suspect that too, yes. But I am fully prepared to be not surprised if it is the other way around! I mean... stranger things have happened.

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Oh crap... how'd you find that one? At a glance looks like a cache bug, yes. The commit it fixes is 6 months old though, so still more likely to be that Mempool ran the older version.

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I wish I could say I found it. Nifty said something about it and I am just speculating based off her extensive knowledge.

For a spiritual exercise: bear your cross. No, donโ€™t just bear it. Revel under it. Be grateful for it. Smile, for this burden is a gift, an opportunity to participate in the redemption of the world. The heavier the load, the wider your smile should be, for you have been deemed blessed and capable enough to handle it.

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Wow people really downzap the daily putt! ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†

Total amount downzapped is wrong!

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Total amount downzapped is wrong!

I'd be curious to know why too. @koob @sox?

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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @k00b 6 Sep

you linked to the wrong day

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good point

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78 sats \ 0 replies \ @sox 6 Sep

it's very possible that at the time of yesterday's rewards there weren't as many downzaps

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These days people are hilarious here! Before they were worried that we didn't have any function to boost and censor posts...now when we have them and they've started functioning well, they are complaining about the same.

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Yeah itโ€™s going nuts today! almost 1M sats in rewards.

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I want to beg everyone that let the sats flow uninterrupted without complaining.

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Hey all this disagreement is happening on the lightning network! Why I honestly say this is one of the best applications out there that uses lightning at its core. Way better than zaps on nostr.

So like you let the speech fly keep things open! Sats flow with every post!

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๐Ÿ’ฏ

The complainers are probably fueling the fire with downzaps.
But whatever it is, I'm enjoying on the sidelines. Also, I think this is best for me.

Free speech or censored speech, the sats will decide. The current Bitcoin way on SN a.k.a. Boost+downzaps are both doing what they were meant for.

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Lol the gram had me by wanting a video upload or a picture selfie ๐Ÿคณ

My account is totally random like @ er356hfd34yg

So I was like, could I just screenshot a selfie off the internet and submit it lol, surely not

Low and behold it worked ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

I got past the zuck's guards lolol

The doomscrolling continues


I bet the Zuck spent billions on that verification system

No doubt the next trap will be to provide another selfie of the same person which could be tricky.....hmmm

Might have to say I've transitioned lol ๐Ÿ˜‚ they can't say a thing diversity and inclusion remember

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it's all fun & giggles until u know that...
people appear to have MAC addresses native to their flesh ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ“ฒ๐Ÿค– that can sync up with the mobile devices & hence the network at large; Elon has already disclosed that brain electrodes aren't necessary for a working neuralink model, and people have been discovering MAC addresses at cemeteries; the user is already KYC'ed in so many ways, including simple signal triangulation;

if u wish to browse instagram, consider https://flufi.me/about

surely some crazy brave souls will use neuralink too, otherwise how will the plugged-in zombies get our memes?

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What in the Alex Jones tin foil hat are you talking about ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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"When a superior man hears of the Tao,
he immediately begins to embody it.

When an average man hears of the Tao,
he half believes it, half doubts it.

When a foolish man hears of the Tao,
he laughs out loud.

If he didnโ€™t laugh,
it wouldnโ€™t be the Tao."
~ Lao Tzu

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148 sats \ 0 replies \ @mo 6 Sep

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America itself should probably be red

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What is this?

I got it fixed and made my post.

I know what caused this. the emoji ๐ŸŸฉ went to its raw code/characters and SN didnโ€™t like it

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511 sats \ 0 replies \ @sox 6 Sep
I know what caused this. the emoji ๐ŸŸฉ went to its raw code and SN didnโ€™t like it

Nice catch! The most plausible explanation is that the emoji unicode pair got somehow damaged, ๐ŸŸฉ means \uD83D\uDFE9 and Prisma[1] rejects incorrect unicode pairs for some reason.

We can probably add checks to remove malformed unicode that Prisma doesn't like, even though it would be better if we could keep your text untouched.

  1. basically the bridge that connects SN to its database โ†ฉ

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131 sats \ 1 reply \ @sox 6 Sep

it reads like a super awesome neon/sci-fi game

Aside from that, it looks like you were creating a post/comment and something went wrong. Anything unconventional in the post form? Iโ€™ll try to reproduce it myself in the meantime.

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Thanks!!!

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Day 22 keeping the hat

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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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Shadows fade away,
Rose tinted glasses whisper,
Sweet illusions bloom.

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11 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

Old strangerโ€™s return
He announces his presence
Unlike departure

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In quiet shadows,
I linger beyond the discourse,
Never truly gone.

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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

Are the stories from
this secret place youโ€™ve been to
lyricizable?

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32 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 6 Sep

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149 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

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11 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

A walk in the park
Or itโ€™s a park in the walk?
This haiku wasnโ€™t

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Crafted with keen wit,
Layers of code interwoven,
ek cleverness shines

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11 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

This cleverness you
seem to see is product of
wrong priorities

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Wicked winds may sway,
Purpose waits patiently,
Motivation comes...

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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

Nobody asked me
What motivates you? I said
Nothing, just do it

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kbmjj123 7 Sep freebie -30 sats

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @a3cae9682d 6 Sep freebie -30 sats

Got my wallet linked and finally ready to roll! Navigating with 0 sats is a trip, but Iโ€™m loving the vibe here. Ready to check out the news feeds. Have a great week everyone! โ˜•

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @a3cae9682d 6 Sep freebie -30 sats

Howdy everyone! ๐Ÿค  Brand new cowboy here from India trying to learn the ropes of the Lightning Network and stack my very first sats. Just finished configuring my external wallet connectionโ€”any tips or favorite news threads a newcomer should follow around here? Glad to join the saloon!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @a3cae9682d 6 Sep freebie -30 sats

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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 6 Sep -30 sats

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