You never *had* to use Boltz since Lightning is Bitcoin. You could have just closed or opened a channel. 

The swap in that case was convenience (and in some cases cost savings).

been many a time I had to use boltz for Bitcoin ↔️ Lightning

i honestly don’t get the fascination with ecash but I know the cool kids like it

Swaps to what though? to Bitcoin ofc. Could have just stayed on Bitcoin.

I think Liquid's use case was always stablecoins, Tether largely funded it/bootstrapped it IIUC.

It's fine for that, stables are centralized anyway.

ecash is the most frustrating because it takes an otherwise good principle and ruins it with crypto-theater.

A mint and a pub are very similar, keep the inevitable trust decentralized and localized. Use nostr to solve the networking problem. They bury this lead though with crypto non-sense.

They just couldn't help themselves from going full retard with crypto-theater and false privacy claims, extra complexity for no gain, and being generally communists.

bitcoin

Is L-BTC a shitcoin?

Scoresby

> swaps

Swaps to what though? to Bitcoin ofc. Could have just stayed on Bitcoin.

I think Liquid's use case was always stablecoins, Tether largely funded it/bootstrapped it IIUC. 

It's fine for that, stables are centralized anyway.

> ecash I’m still waiting for a use case

ecash is the most frustrating because it takes an otherwise good principle and ruins it with crypto-theater.

A mint and a pub are very similar, keep the inevitable trust decentralized and localized. Use nostr to solve the networking problem. They bury this lead though with crypto non-sense.

They just couldn't help themselves from going full retard with crypto-theater and false privacy claims, extra complexity for no gain, and being generally communists.