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What’s the point of using an llm to argue for you?

when you don't trust your own ability to argue, I suppose?

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Why argue then? Just shut up and listen until you can articulate a thought.

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who knows. Im surprised at how many people treat thinking as if were instrumental - that is, only useful for the result and not the process. what happened to "I think therefore I am"?

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So, they must think I'll admit defeat to a robot and for some reason that's valuable to them?

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hey man, don't ask me. i don't know why these psychos do what they do, I'm just spitballing.

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It's part of what I'm seeing as weird irrational use of AI, like when people use AI to run their fantasy teams. Why are you bothering with any of it, then?

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what's wrong with using ai for fantasy?

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Nothing if it's to do the parts you don't like, but when people use it for every part I don't see the purpose of being in a league. It'd be like sending a robot on vacation for you.

you need to have your own ideas but if they are rough and unpolished, LLM can refine and polish for you

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I suspect most llm’s scold you when you share your ideas with them.

Faking it.

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Who’s that for on a pseudonymous forum?

You’re not gonna change my mind. I’m an American. I’m dug in.

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Who’s that for

The ego, or if you mean on this forum, the accidental zap.

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The ego

Do people really feel good when a machine argues their point poorly and unconvincingly?

Am I just an out of touch old person now?

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Do people really feel good when a machine argues their point poorly and unconvincingly?

What makes you think that they read their own slop? They don't know.

Their mind is made up too, so there's no point in reading what you argue, or even read what they argue themselves. You must always double down, or you're a sad little loser. Thus, to be a real winner, you outsource the doubling down, so that you can do 100x the volume of arguments. And since no one reads anyone's arguments, no one knows what a retard you are.

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I remain confused about this person’s utility function.

If you’re just fishing for zaps, you should be echo chamber replying. Even if it’s just as retarded, it’s less likely to be noticed.

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If you're fishing for zaps, mansplaining bots get accidentally zapped most

But there's one other slop cause that we often forget about: people using LLMs to translate to English. If it's a never-ending stream of comms, then that may be the cause rather than ego or sats.

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I'll gladly accept I can't than using LLM for the argument.

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When you aren’t confident in your own position, you can always ask clarifying questions.

That’s usually enough to trip people up, anyway.

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Are we talking about the Zionism?

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the Israel lobby?

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I do believe they've been active here, bizarre as that seems, but that's not what I'm talking about.

I understand why knowing propagandists would try to automate their propaganda.

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I would tell the Israel lobby to go to hell but even the devil can't stand them

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