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Yeah, we all know the reason climate change activism delusion doesn't have a higher uptick is... toxic masculinity!

oh lord.

If you are a man who cares about climate change, are you a bit of a dweeb? Put another way, if a man says global warming is rubbish, does he seem more manly? In my 15 years of writing about climate change, these are not questions I have considered before. But I have begun to do so since coming across research that suggests a lot of men brush off the climate problem for fear of seeming too feminine.

why do studies and polls across the world consistently show that men care less about global warming than women?

It's all just socialization and sexism.

Some studies suggest that men feel they have more to lose from policies to fight climate change. Others conclude it is because women are socialised to care more about things like the environment. But researchers who focus on socialisation tend to look at it from the perspective of the women being socialised.

alternative candidates: women constitutionally less fit for public convos (unlikely), women too high in neuroticism/liable to catastrophizing (plausible), women harder time thinking through trade-offs/op cost (maybe); men more attuned to the real professions that make society function (definitely).

Using data from the US, and a long-running survey of more than 40,000 people across Europe, he showed that men who say they want to save the planet are perceived to be more warm and caring. In keeping with this finding, he also showed that men who are strongly concerned about maintaining their sense of manhood express less concern about the climate problem and say they feel less responsibility for managing it.

GIEF MANHOOD!

A study of more than 9,000 scientists in 115 countries published this week shows that those who believe technology will largely solve the climate problem are 23 per cent less likely to go on a climate march, sign a petition or take similar civic actions, compared with scientists who lack such faith. The techno-optimists are also 18 per cent less likely to make big lifestyle changes to cut carbon. In other words, many personal views matter, even for experts.

Being attuned to tech (fixed) make you less activist-worthy... sooo, having a male-oriented mind must be bad/sexist.

"But Haselhuhn’s work does raise a question about the best way to sell the need for climate action, especially to men."

lol, yeah... because it's all a matter of marketing. No substance problem, no economic consideration, no green-stuff-was-just-low-interest-rate-phenomenon.

oh, and just FYI... if you object to climate "facts," you're not just in denial: you're suffering from SOLUTION AVERSION. Fucksake, give me a break.

It doesn’t help to spout scientific facts to show why [your climate-denying uncle, a man**] is wrong, Hayhoe told a recent FT conference. That’s because the real issue here is not science denial but solution aversion, or concern that climate policies will clash with a person’s identity, ideology or ideas about a better world.
Because it’s unpleasant to say openly that you don’t want to fix a serious problem, people use so-called motivated reasoning to find grounds for why climate change cannot be real or serious. In other words, they process information in ways that align with what they already believe or want, rather than with objective evidence.

Or... maybe, just maybe, there's a deeper, higher-order, system-levels thinking required... trading off one thing for another, or (peeeerhaps??) it's not as bad as the green activists ~say~ scream loudly on the tube, covered in pig's blood...

Ah fuck. Some people's (dare I say, women?!) intellectual echo chambers and cognitive deficiencies are, eh, shocking.

Happily, Hayhoe says, the same uncle’s views can reverse completely if he buys solar panels that save him money or does something else that improves his own circumstances as well as the climate. There is a message here for those of us who rightly worry about warming temperatures. Scientific facts really matter, as does the health of the environment. But there will be times when the best thing you can do for the planet is not talk about it at all.

DEFINITELY a candidate for the stupidest thing I read this week.

Gheyer than all the men getting in a big pile having sex with each other:

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116 sats \ 1 reply \ @000w2 8 Oct

Translation: why won't you let us take your money?!

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Its ok, @denlillaapan you are surely not the only incel Icelandic welfare beneficiary loser to secretly fantasize about Greta Thunberg.

Just keep on ignoring The War and The Greater Israel Project and emphasizing the economic benefits of fossil fuels and Miserian economics and you are bound to find your fantasy woman eventually

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what are the real professions that make society function?

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Its ok, @denlillaapan you are surely not the only incel Icelandic welfare beneficiary loser to secretly fantasize about Greta Thunberg.

Just keep on ignoring The War and The Greater Israel Project and emphasizing the economic benefits of fossil fuels and Miserian economics and you are bound to find your fantasy woman eventually

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"But there will be times when the best thing you can do... is not talk about it at all"

Wow just Ike Bitcoin

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Post hot ergo propter hoc?

Seems to me like there are a variety of attitudes correlated with views on the environment, that may also just happen to correlate with views on manhood.

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That’s just your motivated reasoning kicking in to avoid solutions.

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NOES!

same snarky answer as in the other thread...

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I like the closing point: shut up and do what you think is right.

I am excited to see what they come up with to market to men. Maybe a couple of dudes in work boots kicked back enjoying some beers and complaining about how much harder it’s getting to keep them cold because of climate change.

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persuasive. That's a nice marketing campaign... maybe you should go and pitch it to some NGO?

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I’m open for business. They’ll have to pay me in planet-destroying bitcoin though because I hate solutions.

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We're all concerned because it's the future of humanity, unless you're 60 years old and saying goodbye to this world; it's another thing entirely if we don't recognize it for some reason.

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225 sats \ 3 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 8 Oct -400 sats

Its ok, @denlillaapan you are surely not the only incel Icelandic welfare beneficiary loser to secretly fantasize about Greta Thunberg.

https://m.stacker.news/160726

Just keep on ignoring The War and The Greater Israel Project and emphasizing the economic benefits of fossil fuels and Miserian economics and you are bound to find your fantasy woman eventually

14 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 8 Oct -100 sats

Its ok, @denlillaapan you are surely not the only incel Icelandic welfare beneficiary loser to secretly fantasize about Greta Thunberg.

https://m.stacker.news/160726

Just keep on ignoring The War and The Greater Israel Project and emphasizing the economic benefits of fossil fuels and Miserian economics and you are bound to find your fantasy woman eventually