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Mullvad and The Tor Project releases a new web browser mullvad.net/en/browser

4530 sats \ 24 comments \ @0xtr 3 Apr 2023 bitcoin

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100 sats \ 6 replies \ @spacewrangler 3 Apr 2023

Huge waste of the Tor project's resources considering the current state of the network.

836 sats \ 3 replies \ @tomlaies 3 Apr 2023

The question is: what would be a better a better allocation of the their resources?

The dos could be solved with some kind of POW mechanism ... which would be a huge drain on the network as well
The dos could be solved with Lightning payments ... which isn't happening anytime soon and would crush the number of active nodes
The dos problem could be partially improved with more nodes ... for which we have tried everything else
Getting partners for bigger install base - I'd be awesome if e.g. every windows pc in the world could be turned into a relay node which isn't happening anytime soon but Mullvard is an achievable partner to increase install base

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @phaedrus 4 Apr 2023

Actually, reading the article, it sounds like the browser uses VPN. How is this increasing Tor install base?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 4 Apr 2023

I assume this is the long term plan. Technically you are correct, that we don't know that yet. But it would make sense for the Tor foundation to waste their resources otherwise

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @phaedrus 4 Apr 2023

Are there any plans for integrating Lightning to solve the incentives for running Tor nodes?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @franzap 3 Apr 2023

Speaking like a true statist

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 3 Apr 2023

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105 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 3 Apr 2023

https://i.postimg.cc/K8z15H6X/pretty-good.gif

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @duvel 3 Apr 2023

What if this VPN provider is forced by their government to change their software to log and track everything?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 5 Apr 2023

I have had this same thought.

MullVad is based in Sweden which probably has some of the best "privacy laws" in the world so I don't think it will happen anytime soon but always a possibility.

MullVad does not collect any personal information to create an account. It generates a 16 digit number which can be used and thrown away at any time. They accept bitcoin as payment and generate a new address for every payment.

From an account perspective, that meets all of the necessary requirements to maximize user privacy. No names, no email addresses, no credit cards necessary, no address reuse.

They're doing things right but it can always be a honeypot so don't do illegal stuff with their VPN.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @slender_trikes_0c 3 Apr 2023

I use the Tails OS often. Does anyone know how to use a vpn over tor in Tails?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @0359c62f34 3 Apr 2023

A single point of failure and avoiding that is the whole point of Tor?

517 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 3 Apr 2023

Tor has a huge problem of not having enough nodes. And especially out-nodes.

Current out nodes are corporations with good leaders, universities, clubs that finance lawyer costs and people that route everything into a vpn.

Of course the later is a huge compromise. But if anything goes wrong it's still the person that routed to the vpn that's got the problem. So: point of failure? Yes. Increased number of nodes? Also, yes.