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Welcome to the seventh week of our book club reading A Lodging for Wayfaring Men. We're reading one chapter every two weeks, so we'll be discussing Chapter 4 next Saturday, but in between-weeks we are having a look at the essays in Appendix A. They are short and accessible.

You can find the book club reading schedule here: #1582413


Covetousness and Revaluing the Self by Prester John

At first, I thought this essay was a little woo-woo, new age, but having thought about it for a while, perhaps there is something here. Certainly, this repositioning of "covetousness" is interesting:

People who conceive of themselves as worthy of good things, valuable of themselves, deserving and expectant of pleasure, are not covetous, since covetousness presupposes that you cannot get what you want by your own virtues, and must seize it by fraud.

When we bump up against covetousness, it's often, as Prester John says in this essay, something like envy -- it's all about things that are external to us. Prester John revereses it and makes covetousness all about our own opinion of ourselves -- and especially what we think we are capable of.

"Do you think that you have the ability to create what you want to out of life?"

A word I've been seeing a lot lately in Bitcoin is "sovereignty." It seems like the Bitcoiners who want to pivot to AI but feel sheepish about it are rebranding under "sovereignty" as a way of making it seem like they have not given up on Bitcoin. Nevertheless, sovereignty seems very close to what Prester John is talking about with taking yourself seriously enough that you believe you can create the things you want in life. This is very compelling -- especially now as it seems that AI tools can be used to solve so much of the friction that may have given people reason to give up in the past.

But, a problem with this sort of thinking is this: what if you want more than you are capable of achieving?

No, having devalued your self is not your fault. We were all born into this. These ideas have pervaded all generations and groups of men throughout recorded history. We learned it from our parents and associates, who learned it from theirs. But though it is not your fault, it remains your problem to fix.

If this is the case, I want to know why. why should humanity have developed this way and not along some more honest, noble -- and according to Prester John -- more accurate vision of itself? Because, unless there's a good explanation for that, it seems like we are unlikely to change it.

I've been reading Ursula K LeGuin's The Dispossessed lately. In that story, there are two societies -- a decadent, stratified society much like ours and a noble, anarchic society on the moon above them. The people from this anarchic society seem to have none of the cultural hangups that the more earthly society groans beneath -- and when a scientist from the anarchic society comes down to earth, he is disconcerted by interactions with servants and people in the lower classes -- people who don't seem to mind being treated as servants.

I don't think there are very many people in the world who are uninteresting and have no dreams -- even if most dreams get abandoned in the face of life's many obstacles. But I think what Prester John is getting at is that most of us have pretty severe constraints placed on our dreams -- and we don't often take time to evaluate these.

The solution is to revalue yourself. This does not mean that you should become arrogant and fake. It means that you should analyze your own self-image, and refuse to act on a low or negative estimation of yourself. This will be slow process, and difficult at times.

Well, of course we should, but then there's all these guy wires holding us down. You try to free up your estimation of yourself but you've still got to provide for a family, pay for insurance, it won't do to abandon your friendships, and each one of these is a small enough force on its own, but together they make up a rats nest of responsibilities that prevent you from really changing very much about this estimation of yourself. After all, guy wires are there to stabilize things, even if they end up holding it down.

So, if Prester John is right, and we live in a society that -- for whatever reason -- has crippled our dreaming organs, what do you think you would dream of if you able?


Covetousness and Revaluing the Self by Prester John

During my years as a rabid follower of Jesus, I spent a lot of time going over Bible texts. (And I do mean a lot of time.) Even though I no longer think that those texts were inspired by an omnipotent creator, I do recognize that they were written by a lot of very insightful guys, who, if not always finding the right answers, were at least asking the right questions. One of the things I discovered in my studies was the real meaning and significance of covetousness.

Covetousness is one of those old words that was little-understood even in the old days. Most people think it meant something like envy. But that falls significantly short of the real meaning.

Covetousness has to do with something deeper, with valuing ourselves. Do you think that you have the ability to create what you want to out of life? Now, I’m not asking you if you have actually done this. We all know that the world is fraught with traps, difficulties, and sometimes insurmountable obstacles. But, if those obstacles didn’t exist, would you have the built-in ability to create what you want?

Let me provide some background on this by giving you a very literal translation of a passage from the Bible (Ephesians) that seems to refer to what happened after the famed episode in the garden of Eden, beginning just after man was ejected:

“They went plodding through life in the ineffectiveness of their consciousness. The stream of their consciousness was dimmed by the solidification and desensitizing of their core. And so, they became non-participants in the divine life. This hurt them so badly that they became apathetic, and in that state, gave up control of themselves, and toiled in a reverse catharsis, with covetousness.” The exact rendering of the word “covetousness” here would be “more-hold.” That is, they sought to hold more than they had created on their own. By wanting to hold on to more than you’ve made, you are judging yourself as incapable of making it yourself.

People who conceive of themselves as worthy of good things, valuable of themselves, deserving and expectant of pleasure, are not covetous, since covetousness presupposes that you cannot get what you want by your own virtues, and must seize it by fraud.

Thus, when you sell out (reach a point where the money is good enough for you to sell your honor), you are naming your own value. Perceiving yourself to be unable to create what you want by your own virtues, you sell out.

This finds application in myriad ways.

The point of this discussion is that all humans of our era must fight to revalue themselves. All of us have been touched by covetousness in one way or another (probably in many, many ways), and have accepted a devalued self-estimation. (There’s another very interesting Bible passage that literally translated says “according to your estimation, it happens unto you.”)

No, having devalued your self is not your fault. We were all born into this. These ideas have pervaded all generations and groups of men throughout recorded history. We learned it from our parents and associates, who learned it from theirs. But though it is not your fault, it remains your problem to fix.

The solution is to revalue yourself. This does not mean that you should become arrogant and fake. It means that you should analyze your own self-image, and refuse to act on a low or negative estimation of yourself. This will be slow process, and difficult at times.

By virtue of being a living human, you have immense capabilities. Yes, there may be difficult, or even impossible, obstacles in front of you; but that does not change your basic abilities – they are there, and are more powerful than we have understood.

Remember that sacrificing truth and honor to what seems immediately necessary is based upon either a low estimation of yourself, or – only occasionally – upon truly impossible obstacles.

Work on it. It’ll take time, but work on it.

While I do agree that people tend to have a learned ineffectualness that comes from modern civilization... (TikTok, anyone?)... I think it's a stretch of biblical proportions (pun intended) to say that covetousness is only when you desire more than you can create. I'd say Prester John's article creates the opposite danger: that you hold yourself in too high esteem and create false expectations for what you deserve. Also, thinking that you deserve more because you can create more is unbiblical, which teaches that all blessings are from God and that he actually commands those who are resourceful to share with those who are needy.

And, if I'm looking honestly at society, I'd say that sometimes high self confidence and learned ineffectualness go together. Some of the most incapable people and most unwilling to learn are also the most arrogant and self righteous. So something must be off with his thesis.

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I see some of what you're saying and I think it takes a generous reading of the Prester John essay to interpret it in a way that makes sense, but here's how I see it:

There is something unspoken in this essay (or it's just a lens we need to add in order for it to make sense). As much as valuing your self means being willing to see how very much you can achieve, it also means knowing what you do not have a right to. It's a sort of knowing the right limits of your self. I'm probably being far too charitable in my reading of Prester John here.

But this is sort of what I was thinking about with The Dispossessed -- that when people really seriously sit down to think about what a sovereign individual looks like, the life often ends up looking fairly ascetic and minimal. A person who really understands that they are in charge of their own self and that they can call the shots about how to live their own life does not overestimate their value because they have been confronted with the sharp edges of their own failures.

With regard to Bitcoin, we expect that we have the right to transact with whomever we please on earth and that no one should intervene (intermediate) in our transactions...but we also understand that holding our own keys means we are ultimately responsible for their security and no one is going to come save us should our boat have an accident.

I feel that I'm still hamfisting this and that my words haven't been working quite right this morning, but if we ignore how bad a writer Rosenberg (and therefore Prester John) is, I think we can take this interesting concept out of the essay: the flip side of covetousness is something like dignity -- or perhaps knowing what you can earn?

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I can see what you're saying. But the tenor of the article is that you should value yourself higher... and honestly when I look around I just don't think most people's issue is that they hold themselves in too low regard.

I do think more libertarian fiction would do well to explore the perspective of the incapable. Not everyone can be a John Galt or a James Farber

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more libertarian fiction would do well to explore the implications for the incapable

This would be interesting...and I imagine difficult to write about well. I wonder if there is any genre that has attempted to deal with this topic in a reasonable manner. The human experience of someone who is not particularly capable is probably not the most exciting subject for a story, though.

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I think it would be hard to do well, but I don't think it would be boring. In historical and literary fiction, there are plenty of extraordinary stories told about ordinary people. In scifi and fantasy, the protagonists are usually extraordinary within their extraordinary worlds... but it does make me wonder: what are the best examples of scifi/fantasy which focus on ordinary people in extraordinary worlds?

I think in libertarian fiction there are lots of themes to explore regarding ordinary people: like, do they experience envy and how do they navigate it? And, if they live a minimalist ascetic lifestyle, how much room is there for the great capable people to accomplish great things? (So many great works through time have come at the cost of much human labor)

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This hit me hard.
‎‎Especially the line: "It is not your fault, but it remains your problem to fix."
‎‎We inherit a low estimation of ourselves without choosing it - from parents, culture, religion, school, all of it. And because we didn't choose it, it's tempting to wait for someone else to fix it for us.
‎‎But revaluing yourself isn't arrogance. It's just refusing to make decisions from that inherited smallness anymore. Refusing to trade truth and honor for what feels "necessary" in the moment.
‎‎It's slow work. Some days you slip back. But the moment you start acting like your capabilities are real - because they are - everything starts to shift.
‎Thanks for writing this.

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