200 sats \ 7 replies \ @siggy47 12 May 2023
Here's a novel idea:
How about building a real lightning wallet?
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49 sats \ 6 replies \ @kr OP 12 May 2023
How about not instantly dismissing the builders who are willing to publicly admit their mistakes and are quickly trying to correct them?
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102 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 12 May 2023
My criticism of Muun is certainly not sudden. The problems they have stem from the fact that they're not a lightning wallet, though they market themselves as one. Muun wouldn't need any infrastructure repair if it was a real lightning wallet.
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299 sats \ 3 replies \ @kr OP 12 May 2023
My main point is that it’s way too easy for people to criticize builders from the sidelines.
They took a different approach to building a wallet, it isn’t working, and they are trying their best to come up with a new solution.
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44 sats \ 0 replies \ @03365d6a53 12 May 2023
as much as I've been frustrated with Muun, I have mad respect for the team behind it, making shit happen
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34 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 12 May 2023
Fair point.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jk_14 13 May 2023
failr point, that they market themselves as lightning wallet
nothing has changed, the root of problem is not in: technical issues,
but in this continuous, impertinent lie
which did more damage than benefit to the Lightning ecosystem, I'm afraid...
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17 sats \ 0 replies \ @ealvar26 13 May 2023
I agree. Muun are massive innovators in Lightning.
Reading their blogs on building the wallet has helped me through so many design dilemmas.
We should support them. Building with Lightning isn't easy!
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114 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 13 May 2023
Muun made a design decision that has serious trade offs that are now affecting them. The wallet is easy for new folks to use. Hopefully they can resolve the issues soon.
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108 sats \ 0 replies \ @Chep 13 May 2023
Hell yea. This makes me happy to see as a big user of Muun
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100 sats \ 7 replies \ @Monotone 12 May 2023
People no longer have much faith in them
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1 sat \ 6 replies \ @kr OP 12 May 2023
i’m glad to see them making quick upgrades like this.
what would you prefer seeing Muun do in response to the problems they faced last week?
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161 sats \ 3 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 12 May 2023
There's nothing quick about it. Last September the whole industry was expressing to them how it was going to bite them in the ass and they exclaimed that they were "working on it"
Not saying it's trivial to do but I wouldn't give them any kudos for putting out a tweet saying they'll change. They're bleeding money and users atm. Tweets don't do anything to change that.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kr OP 13 May 2023
did users encounter issues sending and receiving payments last September?
yeah i don’t mean to say that a tweet on its own is enough, they ultimately need to back it up with an improved product… but what good does it do any of us to kick them while they’re down?
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318 sats \ 1 reply \ @TonyGiorgio 13 May 2023
Looks like early Oct, but yes: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-October/020980.html
There were higher fee rates then and big debates that they brought on about trying to change bitcoin core to support a use case that is fundamentally broken.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 13 May 2023
thanks for sharing that link, i didn’t realize the extent of the issues they were having then.
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52 sats \ 0 replies \ @Monotone 13 May 2023
At the very beginning, when I first tried Muun about a year ago, I really liked the experience of using it, and I recommended it to all beginners, but over time, problems of unexpected commissions began to surface. I wonder what solution they will find and I give them a chance to improve.
Let's see what happens.
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28 sats \ 0 replies \ @franzap 12 May 2023
Dario said one year ago:
[Our] architecture will eventually become very expensive, and that is why we're working on a new version
I have no idea what they're up to but they are clearly aware of it for a long time
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