Casa also recommends seedless setup for their customers https://blog.keys.casa/seedless-security-model/

samsamskies

With the huge ledger backlash going on right now....like I don't know maybe because you're doing this from the start its different but (and also its only one of 3 keys and not a split of 1 key)

![trust](https://i.redd.it/7hlvw4rp870b1.png)

Did you look at the Liana wallet? Anything inspiring from that design you think might be useful for what Spiral is trying to accomplish?

nerd2ninja

Most (all?) hardware wallets today have customers write down the seed phrase and re-enter it as part of onboarding. This in an unusual experience for most people. It is time-consuming. And of course then customers have to understand and appreciate how sensitive this material is that they've just written down and devise a plan both to never lose it and never let anyone else see it even for just a few seconds (a quick picture away from losing all your money).

Imagine instead an onboarding experience that takes a minute and doesn't involve any of this?

bitcoin

Seed Phrases are Sharp Edges

k00b

Most (all?) hardware wallets today have customers write down the seed phrase and re-enter it as part of onboarding. This in an unusual experience for most people. It is time-consuming. And of course then customers have to understand and appreciate how sensitive this material is that they've just written down and devise a plan both to never lose it and never let anyone else see it even for just a few seconds (a quick picture away from losing all your money).

Imagine instead an onboarding experience that takes a minute and doesn't involve any of this?