38 sats \ 19 replies \ @k00b 18 Apr 2022 \ on: Daily discussion thread
@jp @dadbeef @zuspotirko
You've all recently requested simplifications to notifications. What do you want?
- have a tab in your notifications that only shows replies (when you visit your notifications you click it and only see replies)
- a setting that makes you only get notified when you have replies and /notifications only ever shows replies
@zuspotirko you specifically only wanted direct replies. This is what you want all the time or is there specific occasions where you want this?
a setting that makes you only get notified when you have replies and /notifications only ever shows replies
Like how Twitter has it. Or Android.
Would you like to be notified for:
- Event A
- Event B
So in Settings, under a Notifications section, a slider to choose for each:
- When I have been mentioned
- When a post of mine receives a reply
- When a reply to my post receives a reply
- When a reply of mine receives a reply
- When a post of mine has been upvoted / tipped | Threshold amount: ___ (default 1 sat)
- When a reply of mine has been upvoted / tipped | Threshold amount: ___ (default 1 sat)
- When my Lightning Address has received a payment
- When an LN invoice (fund / deposit) has been paid
- When I have stacked from daily earn / yield
If that is too granular, the [When * receives a reply] could be a single setting, and [When * of mine has been upvoted / tipped] could also be a single setting. I suppose for wallet, [a payment to my wallet has occurred] and that cover all three as well. I don't mine granular, myself. 99% of people I bet would leave the default values (enabled). But those annoyed have granular control.
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Also getting to notifications should be a single click - currently I have to do two clicks and especially on phone those are in awkward locations.
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Yeah, I think something like that would work.
Also option to consider is to show the number of sats received in a small box, like the number of emails here
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The box could have yellow background. (I'm not sure if that's the right way, just an option to consider)
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Changing the look of the notification depending on the sats stacked is interesting. It seems like people want to be able to distinguish, at a glance, sat stacking notifications from replies.
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The main issue I have with this is it's only usable on desktop. The little square is tiny. We should probably just break out notifications into their own icon.
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My $0.02
Add an 'inbox' specific to replies on a thread post or response
Keep the sat-stacking notification.
Separating these two will let me know if/when someone replies to my post so that I can immediately engage with them. Otherwise I just assume any notification (based on the current layout) is a sat-stack notification
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Curious: how do you feel about twitter likes and retweet notifications?
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Good question.
I enjoy when someone replies to my commentary or shares it with their friends/followers (i.e retweet). "Likes" are a small endorphine kick, but not as strong as a reply/retweet.
I dislike it when Twitter's notification system notifies me of a trending article; the content is generally irrelevant to me and is a major let-down (since I am expecting the notification to be someone replying/retweeting to my message).
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RE likes: you don't get the same dopamine hit on SN or it's less distracting on Twitter?
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9 times out of 10, Twitters notification is due to someone replying/retweeting my post (which is good)
9 times out of 10, Stacker News notification is about a daily stacked sat (which isnt bad, but not as good as a SN comment/reply).
When I see SN notifications, I automatically dismiss them as part of a daily-stack and am less enthusiastic about checking my notifications. Whereas with Twitter, the notification is more rare & surprising (which leads to an unexpected but welcomed endorphine kick)
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This is very helpful thank you jp!
If 9 times of 10, it's the daily stacking, that would mean you have 1 reply every 10 days. I can see how that'd be annoying. I'll try to figure out some solution to this.
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Sounds good - no need to completely change the platform just from my opinion but it's worth exploring to see how this subtle change may alter the community's behavior
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Thanks for remembering!
I'd like as many settings to manage replies as possible. I want to enable/disable the notifications for replies to replies. But if that's too niche of a usecase that nobody except me wants I won't be mad if it does not happen 😂
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For me, maybe add the notification badge only when there are replies, and split notifications page into a big column with replies and a small column with recent votes. I realize though I'm being pretty picky and unconstructive, I think it's a result of high/infrequent engagement on HN with no notifications, low/frequent engagement on twitter with lots of notifications. Both are fine, but SN is giving me high/infrequent with chatty notifications. IOW if I post here, I'll be refreshing the page to check it, while twitter is far more passive.
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You're telling me how you feel which I'm thankful for. I'll try to decode this.
What does the high and low axis signify?
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Can you rephrase?
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You gave
- HN -> high/infrequent
- Twitter -> low/frequent
- SN -> high/infrequent
What does high mean in high/infrequent? And low mean in low/frequent?
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Gotcha, high/low engagement, frequent/infrequent engagement. So I tweet every day, but comment/post to HN maybe once per month.
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